P4U2R/Marie/Combos

Marie

Overview

Combos

Strategy

Character Name Abbreviations

7	8	9
4	5	6
1	2	3

Numbers represent direction on a keyboard numpad. For example,

+

becomes 236D.

> = Proceed from the previous move to the following move.

▷/land = Indicate that the player must land at that point in the sequence.

, = the previous move into the following move.

->/~ = the previous special into a follow-up special.

dl./delay = Delay the following move.

whiff/(whiff) = The move must whiff (not hit).

c. = Close

f. = Far

j. = Jumping/Aerial

hj./sj. = High Jump/Super Jump

jc = Jump Cancel

hjc/sjc = High Jump Cancel/Super Jump Cancel

dc/adc = Dash Cancel/Air Dash Cancel

CH = Counter Hit

AA = Anti-Air

IAS = Instant Air Special

[X] = Hold input.

]X[ = Release input.

(move) = Move is optional.

[X] or [Y] = Perform sequence X or Y.

[sequence] xN = Repeat sequence N amount of times.

(N) = Hit N of a move or move must deal N amount of hits.

AG =

Aigis

AK =

Akihiko

CH =

Chie

LZ =

Elizabeth

JU =

Junpei

KA =

Kanji

KE =

Ken

LB =

Labrys

MG =

Margaret

MA =

Marie

MZ =

Minazuki

MS =

Mitsuru

NA =

Naoto

RI =

Rise

SL =

Shadow Labrys

SH =

Sho

KU =

Teddie/Kuma

AD =

Tohru Adachi

YO =

Yosuke

YU =

Yu Narukami

YA =

Yukari

YK =

Yukiko

Beginner Combos

Basic combos are simple combos with the fewest requirements and conditions possible. They:

Work against every, or almost every, character in the game
Can be performed from most positions in the play area
Require few adjustments, and if any are required they are simple

Combos: https://private-coin-db5.notion.site/P4U2-ver-2-50-Marie-Combo-Doc-df697128415240fd982b568c133e2fda
Intro to Marie: https://www.notion.so/P4U2-Remaster-Intro-to-Marie-5565ac469cd948c8aec4a941416d8a19#a406ae52d5dd48f692ad1393730aa93f/
This combo list is a stub, reference the documents above.

Basic Combo Theory

Marie is a character who doesn't dish out the most damage with normal hits, but rather gets her damage from anti airs or converting off of hits with presents or her evil eye.

Marie has average damage that'll always end in some sort of safejump or oki option. Most of her combos will end in either:

Autocombo (5AAAA), gives meter bonus and guarentees safejump with airdash >j.C afterwards
5AAA>sweep into 214A~A/B for oki, or 236A/236C for more damage.

On crouching hits Marie can do 2B>5B>delay 5BB for a nice damage extension as well.

j.C whiff cancel

J.C Whiff combos are a core part of Marie's more damaging combos after 236B. The standard input for this is 236B>j.66>j.B>j.2B>j.C(whiff)>5A/2A or 2B. j.C cancels the bounceback from her j.2B and allows for her to have less recovery. Thus allowing for her to extend combos as soon as she hits the ground.

Beginner Solo Confirms

The most basic parts of Marie combos.

Autocombo

Very Easy

5AAAA
Standard autocombo, leads into safejump and can be cancelled early into sweep for oki.

Gatling into Sweep

Very Easy

2A / 5A > 5AA > 5B / 2B > 5C > 2A+B
Basic hitconfirm on the ground into sweep. Easy solid combo for oki. Most meter efficient for characters that can't be j.C looped.

Run Amok extension

Easy

2A / 5A > 5AA > 5B / 2B > 5C > 2A+B > 236A+B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 5AAAA
Extension from sweep for more corner carry and damage, also provides great oki with sweep.

Basic Crouch Confirm

Easy

5AA > 2B > 5BB > 2B > 5C > 2A+B
A crouching only combo that works on every character. A slight delay after the 5B is required, so it takes some practice. After 2B you can do 2AB>214A~A for oki or 2A>236A for a safejump.

Route into 236A

Easy

5AA > 5C > (5B) > 2A+B > 236A
Best damage for characters that cannot be j.C looped.

Corner Magatama combo

Easy

5AA > 5C > 2A+B > 236C > 5B > 2B > 5C > 2C
Corner extension with magatama, can be followed up with 236A for more damage or 214C for oki. Can also be jump canceled for safejump.

Anti Air Combo

Easy

2B > 5C > 2C > (2B) > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 5AAAA/5AAA2A+B
Standard anti air combo for Marie. If the opponent is too low you can exclude the 5C. Provides a lot of meter and good oki/safejump.

Safejump Enders

Ending a combo in a safejump is a good way to keep Marie's pressure going, even after you've finished your combo. Try to end your combos in any one of these if possible.

Run Amok Safejump

Very Easy

...2A+B > 236A > j.66 > j.C
Most common safejump used in most routes, if the opponent starts to delay tech, delay the airdash.

Sweep Safejump

Very Easy

...2A+B > forward jump > j.66 > j.B
Basic safejump, used if any other safejump would scale too much.

Magatama Safejump

Very Easy

...236C/D > forward jump > j.66 > j.B
Good safejump for closing in distance or if 236A was already used in the combo. Will not safejump on heavily scaled combos.

2C Safejump

Very Easy

...(AIR HIT)5C > 2C > forward jump > j.B
One of her best safejumps and simultaneously one of her best combo enders.

Left/Right corner safejump

Very Easy

...236B/A+B > j.66 > j.A > j.B > 5C > 2C > jump cancel (jC) > j.44
A safejump left right mix in the corner. Delay the backdash to prevent a crossup, and do it instantly to cause a crossup. Opponents mashing dp will either dp the oppsite way or will normally get safejumped.

Core Combos

Core combos balance potency with consistency. They:

Work against most characters of a selected weight or hurt box type
May require moderate adjustments to account for variables such as screen position, hit count, resources, and opposing character
Are expected to be consistently performable by most intermediate and advanced players who main the character

J.C loop primer

j.C loopMaximize your meterless damage

Intermediate

5AA > 2B > 5B > (delay) 5BB > 9jc > j.C > 5AAAA/5AAA2A+B
Meterless extension that works on most of the cast. Does great damage for standing characters for little resources used. Also provides a safejump and oki if chose to do so.

j.C loopMaximize your meterless (corner) damage

Intermediate

5AA > 5C > 5B > 2B > 5C >(delay) 5BB > jC(9)> j.C > 2A > 2B > 5C > 5B > 2A+B > 236A
Corner variation of the j.C loop, works on all characters that the j.C loop can be performed on. For Naoto and Narukami specifically, switch the first 2B and 5C.

*Does j.C Loop work?*
	Work?	How difficult?	Notes
Narukami	Yes	Hard	Possible with slight delay after 5BB
Yosuke	No
Chie	Yes	Easy
Yukiko	Yes	Easy
Kanji	Yes	Easy	Can replace 2B with 5C
Teddie	No
Naoto	Yes	Easy
Mitsuru	Yes	Easy
Akihiko	Yes	Easy	Can replace 2B with 5C
Aigis	Yes	Easy
Labrys/Shabrys	No
Elizabeth	No
Yukari	Yes	Easy
Junpei	Yes	Easy
Sho/Mina	No
Rise	Yes	Easy
Ken	Yes	Easy
Adachi	Yes	Easy
Marie	Yes	Easy	Can replace 2B with 5C
Magaret	Yes	Easy	Can replace 2B with 5C

Core BnBs

Magatama Corner ComboCan't do j.C loop? Do this instead

Easy

5AA > 2A+B > 236C > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C(whiff) > 5AAAA
A good route to go for if you can't do the j.C loop and want to get good damage off.

Throw Combo

Easy

Throw > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > 5AAAA
Go to throw combo in the corner, leads into safejump with good meter gain

Throw Combo (Alternative Safejump Ender)

Intermediate

Throw > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > 2B > 5C > 2C
Alternative version of the safejump. Less meter but a better safejump.

Max Meterless Damage from Throw

Very Hard

Throw > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 214A/B~C > delay j.66 > j.2B > j.B > 5C > 2C
Max meterless damage, not recommended as it does a miniscule amount more than the normal throw.

AoA C Ender Route

Intermediate

AoA~C Ender > jump forward > j.A > j.B > j.C > j.B > j.236A+B > 2A > 236A
Route for converting off of AoA~C Ender.

Standard AoA D Ender Route

Easy

AoA~D Ender > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C(whiff) > 5AAAA
Most basic variation of Marie's AoA Route, provides a good amount of meter along with a safejump.

Advanced AoA D Ender Route

Intermediate

AoA~D Ender > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C(whiff) > 2B > 5C > 2C (> 2B > 236A > 236236C)
More advanced version of the first combo, provides a better safejump and better damage.

Max meterless Damage AoA D Ender

Intermediate

AoA~D Ender > 5C > dash cancel > 236B > j.66 > delay {{{2}}} > 2A+B > 214A~C > j.2B > j.B > 5B > 5C > 2C (> 236A > 236236C)
Most damage off of AoA without using meter. Very difficult.

One More! Cancel Midscreen combo

Intermediate

5AA > 5C > 2A+B > 236A > OMC > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 2B > 5C > 2C
Decent damage extension off of 5A starter. Useful for opponents that cannot be j.C looped or if 2C knockdown is preferred. J.C loop into card super is preferable to this combo, however.

One More! Burst Midscreen Combo

Intermediate

2A+B > 236A > OMB > 66 > 214A~C > 66 > 2C > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 5AAA2A+B
Great damage off of sweep starter, can also be done off of 5AA >2A+B.

j.B CH Confirm

Intermediate

CH j.B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 5AAAA
A combo for following up after counterhit j.B. j.B has a lot of untech time so there's a lot of time to proceed with the combo.

CH 5C Confirm

Intermediate

CH 5C > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 2A > 5BB > 2B > 5C > 2C > 5B > 236A > 236236C
Go to DP punish off of 5C. You can omit the super and 236A for a 2C safejump. This also works off of CH 5B/2B.

CH 5C (Far) Confirm

Intermediate

CH 5C > dc > 5AA > 2B > 5B > delay 5BB > j.C > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236A
Go to punish for confirms from afar

Igor Fatal Counter Midscreen Route

Intermediate

FC 214A/B~C > 66 > 5C > 214A/B~C > 66 > 2C > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 5AAA2A+B
Go to route for igor starter. Try 5C when they're close to the ground, and use 2C when they're higher up.

Converting From Presents

Basic Chocolate Confirm

Intermediate

(Chocolate hits) > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C(whiff) > 2A > 5B > 5BB > 2B > 5C > 2C
Easiest confirm from chocolate that leads into a safejump. Do 236B around the last hit of chocolate.

Chocolate Sideswap

Intermediate

(Chocolate hits) > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C(whiff) > 2A > 2B > 236A > 5A > 5C > 2C
Relatively simple confirm that sideswaps and leads into a safejump.

Advanced Chocolate Confirm

Intermediate

(Chocolate hits) > 2A+B > (last few hits of chocolate) > 2A+B > 214A~C > 2C > 2B > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C(whiff) > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236A
Relatively simple confirm that sideswaps and leads into a safejump.

Chocolate Oki Confirm

Intermediate

2A+B > (Chocolate hits) > 214D(set) > dash up > 214D(detonate) > 5C > 2C > 2B > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > 5AAA > 2A+B
Route that can you can hit on present oki if they get hit by sweep. Provides GREAT damage.

Basic Cloud Confirm

Intermediate

(Cloud hits) > 2C > 2B > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C(whiff) > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236A
Your go to route for confirming out of cloud. Leads into a decent safejump.

Converting off of Evil Eye

This section will show how Marie can convert off of her evil eyes, leading to higher damage route.

Evil Eye Starter

Basic Evil Eye Confirm

Easy

(Evil eye Detonate) > 5C > (2C >) 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C(whiff) > 5AAAA
Evil eye combo using Marie's standard routing, nets more damage than most other bnbs.

Advanced Evil Eye Confirm

Intermediate

(Evil eye Detonate) > 2A+B > 214A~C > 2C > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236A
Good confirm if you get an evil eye detonation up close.

Combo into Detonation

Basic Detonation Confirm

Easy

5AA > 2A+B > 214C/D (detonate) > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 5AAAA
Most basic confirm for a combo into an already set evil eye

Advanced Detonation Confirm

Intermediate

5B > (2B) > 5C > 214C/D (Detonate) > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.A > j.B > 5C > 2C
More advanced confirm off of detonating the evil eye.

Comboing off of SB Evil Eye

SB Evil eye starter has a LOT of proration compared to other versions. Combo options are limited but here's what you can do!

Basic SB Eye ConfirmFumbleproof!

Very Easy

214C+D (Detonation) > 5C > 2C
Most basic confirm off of SB evil eye, provides your best safejump but has low damage.

Advanced SB Eye Confirm

Intermediate

214C+D (detonate) > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 5AAAA
More advanced confirm off of SB Evil eye. Delay 5B in order to put the opponent at the right height.

Corner SB Eye Confirm

Hard

214C+D > j.2B > j.B > 5C > 2C ( > 2B > 236A )
Good confirm in the corner for a safejump, difficult route but can be worth for the mix.

OMB SB Eye Confirm 1

Hard

214C+D (detonate) > 5C > OMB >214C(set) > 2A+B > 236A> j.236A >(evil eye auto detonate)> 5C > 2C > 236A > 236236C
Good route for closing out the round.

OMB SB Eye Confirm 2

Hard

5C> OMB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B >j.2B > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236A > 236236C
Alternative route for closing route if the 1st is too difficult.

Advanced Material

Here are some of Marie's more difficult, but optimal routing for her combos.

5C CH SideSwitch Midscreen

Hard

CH 5C > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 2A > 2B > 236A (sideswap) > 2A > 5BB > 2B > 5C > 2C
This route side will swap sides, also best meterless damage off of CH 5C midscreen. Goes into safejump 2C, you can also do 236A for 3.8K damage.

5C CH Optimal Corner Meterless

Hard

CH 5C > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 2A > 236A > j.66 > j.A > j.B > 5BB > 2B > 5C > 2C > 2B > 236A
Best counterhit damage off of 5C in the corner meterless.

FC Igor Midscreen Optimal

Hard

FC 214A~C > 66 > 5C > 214A~C > IAD > j.2B > j.B > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > dl. j.B > 2A+B > 214A~C > 2C > (2B > 236A > 236236C)
Best damage meterless off of igor midscreen. Provides the best safejump as well. Instead of IADing you can also jump, but it's slightly more difficult. Depending on how high the 236B launched the opponent, delay the airdash and j.B more.

Cashing Out with Meter

B Shell Extension

This section will show you the many ways Marie can use shell of denial to extend her combos for her more optimal confirms in the corner.

Grounded B ShellRoute

Hard

2B > (5B) > 2A+B > 5B+D > 236236B > 5A > 5B > 5BB > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C(whiff) > 2B > 5C > 2C
Simple conversion that can be done from any grounded starter in the corner. Does around 4K and can break 5K with a metered ender.

2C Anti Air

Hard

2C > (2B) > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 214A~C > dl.236236B > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C(whiff) > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236A
Good route for when you want to catch jumps in the corner. If they're caught low to the ground, use 2B to stabilize the route. Input 236236B as their body starts to fall to launch them at the right height.

CH j.B B Shell Route

Hard

CH j.B > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 214A~C > dl.236236B > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C(whiff) > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236A > 236236C
Good route for cashing out damage after a CH j.B.

AoA D Ender B Shell

Hard

AoA D Ender > 5C > 214A~C > dl.236236B > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C(whiff) > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236A > 236236C
AoA route that uses B shell for massive damage.

Self-Awakening Route

Hard

5AA > 2A+B > 5B+D > 236236B > 5AA > land 5B+D > 236236B > 5AA > j.B+D > j.236236B
Go to route for self awakening with 100 meter, use if you have less than 60% health and can survive regnerating your awakening health.

5C CH 100 Meter Corner Route 1

Hard

CH 5C > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 2A > 5BB > 2A+B > 214A/B~C > (SUPERJUMP STRAIGHT UP) > j.B+D > 236236B > j.B > 2B > 5C > 2C > 5B > 236A > 236236C
Great damage in the corner for 100 meter.

5C CH 100 Meter Corner Route 2

Very Hard

CH 5C > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.C > j.236B(1 hit) > 236236B > j.B > 5BB > 2A+B > 214A/B~C > 2C > (5B > 236A > 236236C)
Great damage in the corner for 100 meter.

5C CH 100 Meter Corner Route 3

Hard

CH 5C > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.C > j.236B(1 hit) > 236236B > j.B > 5BB > 2B > 5C > 2C > (5B > 2B > 236A > 236236C)
Easier version of the 2nd route

Advanced Okizeme: Shining Arrows

This section will go over how to setup Marie's best mixup tools, shining arrows.

It's not something as obviously strong like Adachi's Mandala or Shabrys' Titanomachia, but it's still a really good part of Marie's kit. First, lets go over some important things about shining arrows before talking about setups.

Shining arrows can be broken at ANY point by hitting Kaguya or hitting Marie.
D version shoots automatically, while C and SB Shots shoot manually. C shots come from the Marie's side, then the opponents side, and vice versa for D shots.
Rainy makes every shot shoot an extra time.
SB Shot has less recovery than both C and D.
SB and C shots teleport to Marie after each shot.

If the opponent has a lot of health, you can use shining arrows to push the momentum back into your favor. Otherwise, route for a higher damage combo.

Basic Shining Arrows Safejump

Intermediate

5AA > 5B > 5C > 2A+B >236A > 214214D > jump forward > j.B
This is one of the most basic ways of setting up shining arrows. You can also run up after activating d shining arrows instead of doing a safejump, but you're vulnerable to grabs and dps.

Combo into SB Shining Arrows (Midscreen/Corner)

Hard

2A+B > 236A > 214214C+D> microdash > (2A > 5B > 5BB) > 2A+B > 236B > D > j.66 > j.B

If kaguya ends up far away from Marie, do D earlier.
Works off any starter

This route uses the first shot of shining arrows to provide amazing oki. This oki is so good you can do so much afterwards. The most common oki in the corner is 214D and then air turn backdash over them. This causes all shots to be shot, and leaving plenty of time to setup more items or start pressure. Midscreen the same can be done, but there's more room to do other setups as well like present since they won't run off screen. Experiment with oki! The world is yours!

Combo into C Shining Arrows

Hard

5AA > 2A+B > 236A > 214214C > 5AAA > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B> > slight walk back> 5B

You can also do D > j.B ender here instead
This can also be done off of grab
Loses to dp mash

Variation of shining arrows that spends less meter and you can control where the arrows can go. Becomes a lot stronger in rain. Placing an evil eye is recommended for extended pressure.

Cashing out with OMB

Standard OMB Route

Hard

... 2A+B > 5B+D > 236236B > OMB > 214C (set) > 2A+B > 236A > j.236B > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236A > 236236C
Go to OMB route for most, if not all starters in the corner. Provides anywhere from 5-7K depending on the starter.

Alternative OMB Route

Hard

... 2A+B > 5B+D > 236236B > OMB > 214C(set) > 2A+B > 236A > j.236A > 214C (auto detonate) > 5C > 2C > (236A > 236236C)
Easy route for extending combos with OMB, better for more scaled combos such as after j.C loop or after the crouch confirm combo.

Evil Eye Auto Detonate OMB Route

Hard

2A+B > 5B+D > 236236B > OMB > 214C (set) > 2B > 5C > 5B > j.B > j.236B > 214C (auto detonate) > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236A > 236236C
High damage route off of sweep that uses evil eyes auto detonation into the standard 236B route. Not too hard compared to other OMB evil eye routes.

150 Meter

Anti Air 5B Corner Cash out (CORNER)

Hard

5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 214A~C > 236236B > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 2B > 5B+D > 236236B > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236C > 236236C
Cash out with 5B to secure a kill on an opponent in the corner. Also works off of CH j.B, 2C, and 5C>2C!

Corner Sweep OMB

Hard

2A+B > 236A > 236236B > OMB > 214C (set) > delay 2B > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > delay 214C (detonate) > 214A~C > 236236B > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > j.C (whiff) > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236C > 236236C
Cash out route off of sweep in the corner. Does around 8K in the corner, make sure to delay 214C as much as possible and also delay the igor head as well.

Igor Max Damage #1

Hard

FC 214A~C > 214C(set) > 5C > 214A~C > 236B > (214C auto detonate) > 236236B > OMB > 214C(set) > 2A+B > 236A > j.236B > 214C(auto detonate) > microdash 2A+B > 214A~C > j.66 > j.2B > j.B > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 5B+D > 236236B > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236C > 236236C
Max damage route that kills most characters.

Igor Max Damage #2

Hard

FC 214A~C > 214C(set) > 214C(manual Detonate) > 214A~C > 5C > 236B > 236236B > OMB > 214C(set) > 2A+B > 236A > j.236B > ( 214Cauto detonate) > microdash 5C > 214A~C > j.66 > j.2B > j.B > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 5B+D > 236236B > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236C > 236236C
Max damage route that kills most characters. A bit harder than the previous, but squeezes out a little bit more damage.

Igor Max Damage #3

Hard

FC 214A~C > 214C(set) > 214C(manual Detonate) > 236236B > OMB > 214C(set) > 2A+B > 236A > j.236B > j.C > ( 214Cauto detonate) > 5C > 214A~C > superjump > 5B+D > 236236B > j.B > 5B > 5BB > 2A+B > 236B > j.66 > j.B > j.2B > 5AAA > 2A+B > 236C > 236236C
Easiest route of the 3, but does the least damage out of all of them.