DBFZ/Android 17

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Overview

Overview

Android 17 is a fast, heavy mix-up based character that possesses a combination of various mobility options and rekka moves that grants him an overall constant pressure, fantastic mix-up and unorthodox combo routes that lead to very high damage. With just an assist and half a bar to hand, an unscaled starter can lead to colossal punishment, and he will continue chasing you after you get back up with Accel Driver and Finishing Driver: two rekkas with a huge tray of different follow-ups. They give Android 17 colossal option select prowess, and allow him to mow down the opponent merely through catching them blindly. He provides brilliant synergy to a team with his assist, versatile for nigh infinite scenarios.

With such tremendous strengths, it makes sense that 17 is contrasted by being one of the least beginner friendly characters in FighterZ, with lackluster range, coupled with the arduous task of having to learn all the different Driver follow ups. 17 is a character that takes many, many hours to learn, but those hours reward you with possibly the most terrifying mixup monster the game has to offer.
Android 17
DBFZ Android 17 Portrait.png
Unique Movement Options
Air Fake Out
Acrobatic Assault
Fastest Attacks
Reversals

 Android 17 operates using speed and dizzying consecutive attacks that render opponents frantic.

Pros
Cons
  • Terrifying Pressure: Driver Moves, four lows, an overhead, and a feint give him a plethora of mix-up options, as well as good stagger pressure with his buttons. Driver Moves in tandem with buttons and assists lead to insanely long pressure.
  • Great Battery: Some of the best meter gain in the game when utilizing ki blasts, enabling multiple ToDs with the right assists especially with Sparking!.
  • Special Assist: A has multiple applications, being a frame 10 shield to any incoming attacks, and a very strong offensive assist, having a TON of hitstun and being +35 on block
  • Option Select: Barrier beats reflect-proof options, Guard Cancel, level 3 Supers, and EX Barrier also jails into Vanish.
  • Movement: Acrobatic Assault and Air Fake Out gives 17 unprecedented air mobility, making it extremely difficult for an opponent to keep him still, or pin him in the corner.
  • Rekka Conditioning: Players must be able to condition with A17's Driver Moves to open opponents' defense and complete combos. His speed only shines when you know exactly what moves you are using to keep the opponent guessing.
  • Poor Range: Normals have short range, resulting in lackluster neutral and approach options without assists. His other tools must be used to compensate.

Normal Moves

5L

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
5L 400 All 6 2 13 -1
5LL 700 All 7 5 16 -5
5LLL 1000 All U3+ 15 4 17 -5 4 Low
5L

A stationary jab with very poor horizontal range. You can 4LL to perform it twice in a row, making this a good tool for stagger pressure, but you'll often have to dash to get in range for it.


5LL

This forward advancing knee comes out really fast, sorta making up for 5L whiffing.

Its speed allows it combo from 2L even if 5L whiffs.


5LLL

17 jumps and swings its arms at you. This move's noteworthy for allowing air special cancels on block, enabling his mixup between j.214HDBFZ Android17 AirFakeOut.pngGuardStartupRecoveryTotal: Until L(+?)Advantage- ~ 2L and j.236HDBFZ Android17 AirSecondGear.pngGuardHighStartup18RecoveryAdvantage-.

  • In the corner, you can link into a j.L for optimal combos.

5M

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
700 All 9 4 17 -5

A fast and far-reaching 5M, 17's best normal. Considering how short your 5L is, you'll prefer this to mash on their pressure or engage in neutral.

It's also a fenomenal move in pressure, leaving you in range to reset with 5L in most situations, or as a tool to restart your string after spacing yourself with 5S and 2M.

5H

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
850 / 1000 All U1 15 4 22 -10

Combo and blockstring filler. It allows you to combo into 236M midscreen and 214L~L in the corner, you'll want to route into this more often than not.

It works as an anti reflect after 5L, 2L, 5LL and 5M, but not other normals.

  • Doesn't gatling into 3H

5S

(Hold OK)

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
300×6 All 13 Total 37 -4

An average ki blast. It's useful for pressure as it's really safe on block, it can also be used to poke in neutral.

From far range fire a couple of ki blasts and look to 2H a superdash or vanish if they get hit. You can also combine it with a fullscreen assist, for example a beam, to force them to block and take your turn.

You can also use it at close and mid range, as here 17 can follow up 1 or 2 ki blasts with 3H to start a combo or a blockstring.

  • Hold or mash S to shoot up to 6 Ki Blasts
  • 6th Ki Blast launches on hit

2L

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
400 Low 7 3 13 -2

A low with slightly more range than your 5L. Be careful with your spacing when using this move as it's still prone to whiffing.

  • Can chain into itself once.

2M

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
700 Low 8 4 18 -5

A fast, short range low. Doesn't have much use in neutral but it's useful in blockstrings, as not only it is -5 but it also creates some space between you and your opponent. Remember to dash 5L if you reset your blockstring here.

2H

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
850 / 1000 All U1+ 14 3 22+7L -16 4-16 Head

A standard anti air, has bad horizontal range.

It can be useful to set up mix, as on block you have access to your air rekkas. If you want to use 2H in a blockstring, chain it from 3H to make sure it doesn't whiff.

6M

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
850 High 24 6 4+6L ±0
  • Universal overhead.

3H

Sliding Sweep

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
750 Low 12 8 17 -10 4-20 Head

Great combo and blockstring tool. Besides being one more low in your string, it's really useful for hit confirms, as it anti reflects and combos out of basically everything.

Has anti air properties, which comes into play if your 2H input gets crossed up or if they try to SD your 5S in pressure.

If spaced, it can be made safe on block.

  • Scales like an 'L' normal (Thanks a lot, Cell).
  • Posseses some low profile properties.
  • 17's farthest reaching normal, hits at round start range.

j.L

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
400 High 6 3

Mostly combo filler thanks to its stubby nature.

j.M

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
700 High 9 3

Your best button for crossups and air to airs. It doesn't have that much range downward, which can cause some combos to drop.

j.H

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
850 / 1000 High D1+ [D3+] 13 4
5LLLLLLL
  • Dynamic hit can wall bounce.

j.H
  • Smash hit causes a sliding knockdown.

j.S

(Hold OK)

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
250×6 All 11 Total 46+3L

Shoots 6 ki blasts in pairs of 2. Incredible for punishes as you can combo into superdash from surprisingly far, and a crucial part of your combos as it builds a worrying amount of meter.

It also has increased blockstun, so you can use it for same side and crossups and confirm it with j.214HDBFZ Android17 AirFakeOut.pngGuardStartupRecoveryTotal: Until L(+?)Advantage- ~ 5L without leaving a mashable gap.

If done after IAD j.M, allows you to go for a high low between j.236HDBFZ Android17 AirSecondGear.pngGuardHighStartup18RecoveryAdvantage- and j.214HDBFZ Android17 AirFakeOut.pngGuardStartupRecoveryTotal: Until L(+?)Advantage- ~ 2L without needing an assist.

  • Mash or hold S to do all 3 hits.

j.2H

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
850 All U1+ 13 5

Combo filler, clean and simple. By delaying your air autocombo, you can gain upwards momentum and combo a j.S for some optimization.

Special Moves

Accel Driver

236L or 236M/H (Hold OK)

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
236L 900 All 15 -23 4-18 Head
236M 950 All 25-30 -23 4-28~33 Head
236H 1000 All 33-47 -23 1-36~50 Head
236[M] Total 33~38 4-19~24 Head
236[H] Total 35~49 1-22~35 Head
All versions

17 performs an attack, then gains access to his gear follow-ups. The attack has anti-air properties.


236L

Short range but fast enough to be your gapless blockstring ender, this is what makes your pressure last for so long. When in doubt, 236L~M~2M~2S is your go-to safe rekka sequence.


236M

Dashes just shy of fullscreen and attacks once it reaches the opponent. Hold the M button to perform a feint instead.

It's an important part of your combos, as performing a full rekka string after 5H and extending with an assist deals quite a bit of damage, plus it leaves you with a power blitz charge.

You can occasionally use the feint to reset your pressure but it's not to be abused as it has quite the recovery.


236H

Always crosses through the opponent, even fullscreen, then performs the attack. After crossing over you can hold H for a feint, or you can override the initial attack with a follow-up.

As a crossup, this move is heavily telegraphed as the opponent can just react to the EX special effects, it doesn't help that it can be punished harshly.

Where it shines is in setting up mixups with an assist, as it always steals the corner. You can either go for the feint and take advantage of your + frames or you can use ~4L to create left right 50/50s, all while threatening your other rekka options.

Air Second Gear

j.236L/M/H

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
j.236L 900 High 18 Until L
j.236M 950 High D1 20 Until L
j.236H 1000 High D1 18 Until L
All Versions

17's primary combo ender and extender.


j.236L

Only connects after j.M in midscreen, and is useful to drag the opponent to the ground while saving your SKD.


j.236M

Smash hit causes a sliding knockdown and can be combo'd into from j.S(6), so it serves as a meterless SKD.


j.236H

This is one of your main high/low mixup tools, as with Smash hit it causes a ground bounce, allowing a full combo using your drivers.

You will most often set it up with 5LLL, j.S or 2H but it can also be done raw out of staggers, however doing it midscreen requires a precise Tiger Knee or you'll go over your opponent.

Also really useful as a combo ender, since it works at high hitstun decay and you can choose to take a damaging extension or a sliding knockdown.

Finishing Driver

214L or 214M/H (Hold OK)

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
214L 900 All 31 -23 4-22 Projectiles
23- 34 Head
214M 950 All 37 -23 4-27 Projectile
28-47 Head
214H 1000 All 40 -23 4-22 Projectiles
23-54 Head
214[M] Total 48~55 4-27 Projectiles
28-34~41 Head
214[H] Total 45~56 4-22 Projectiles
23-31~42 Head
  • Sways back before rushing in with identical properties to 236X. This includes 214H allowing any type of follow-up to be performed instantly after crossing behind the opponent and before attacking.
  • Driver follow-ups can be used before he dashes forward.
    • 17 can even cancel into Accel Driver during his spin, combine 214H with 236L/M for a sneaky left/right mixup.

The only way to combo into this is with Smash 5H in the corner, and even then the first hit must be cancelled immediately into L Top Gear. Its use in blockstrings is limited as punishing mashers requires a very tight delay from M buttons and is impossible from L buttons.

Air Fake Out

j.214L/M/H

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
j.214L Total: Until L(+?)
j.214M Total: Until L(+?)
j.214H Total: Until L(+?)
  • L jumps forward, M jumps backward, H falls in place.

In a blockstring, 2H > j.236H vs 2H > j.214H~2L is a simple high/low mixup.

Acrobatic Assault

236S (Air OK) or 214S (Air OK) or 6S during Gear string (Air OK) or 4S during Gear string (Air OK)

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
236S Until wall +3L
j.236S Until wall +3L
  • 214S jumps backward, 236S jumps forward.
  • Cancelable into air attacks when 17 is approaching the opponent.
  • Air version can only be performed once until landing.

Jumps onto the current wall and bounces back. In the corner, 236S + Assist will spawn them at the edge of the screen and push the opponent out of the corner. It's a little underwhelming as a neutral tool as 17 doesn't have great ways of dealing with superdash, but it can provide some tricky movement options if used sparingly and when combined with Air Accel Drivers.

Power Blitz Charge

22S or 2S during Gear string

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
800×2 All 14 -5
  • Both of 17's hands have hitboxes during the initial portion of the charging animation.
  • Launches on hit.
  • Charges on frame 11.

The pop-up style launch is very useful for getting an easy assist call, usually when you end a rekka string with the charge. From the assist hit, you can super dash (or with heavy stun assists like Bardock B, just jump) to follow up with an aerial combo, or stay on ground with a well timed Accel Driver.

Power Blitz

22S after Charge (Air OK) or 2S during Gear string after Charge (Air OK)

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
22S Shot (300,150×4)×2 All 17 +6
j.22S Shot (300,150×4)×2 All 16 Until L
  • Causes a sliding knockdown on hit.
  • Throws 2 balls downward. First ball arcs up while the second arcs down.
  • Air version perfroms a fast fall after shooting.
  • Loses charge on frame 16, the moment the first blast is thrown.

One of the best singular moves in the game. Tremendous reward in many situations, standing as a high damage combo finisher, instant win of neutral (with either tremendous oki or having a 6 frame advantage on block), and instantly puts 17 back on the ground, even on whiff. This means 17 is not relegated to being a sitting duck if he gets caught in the air, keeping his "annoying factor" sky high. The only problem being, of course, is that you need the charge the thing in the first place, but with 17 on point, assists and potentially his own B assist when he is not in play ensures he will have the opportunity to charge Power Blitz. Once you have the move, use it wisely and well, as it gives 17 tremendous status in neutral and solves his knockdown issues when he has it ready.

Gear Follow-ups

Gear follow-ups can cancel into one another or any other Special Move on whiff, but each move can only be used once per string. The rules of a Gear string are as follow:

  • Starts with Accel DriverDBFZ Android17 AccelDriver.pngGuardAllStartup15RecoveryAdvantage-23 and Finishing DriverDBFZ Android17 FinishingDriver.pngGuardAllStartup31RecoveryAdvantage-23 on the ground, or Air Second GearDBFZ Android17 AirSecondGear.pngGuardHighStartup18RecoveryAdvantage- and Air Fake OutDBFZ Android17 AirFakeOut.pngGuardStartupRecoveryTotal: Until L(+?)Advantage- in the air. Starting a string with Air Second Gear counts as using 6L/6M, the same applies to Air Fake Out and 4L/4M.
  • Pressing L or M without a direction will choose a follow-up going by this order, skipping any gear you already used: Top Gear > Second Gear > Low Gear.
  • Using Accel Driver or Finishing Driver mid-string will refresh the usage of Gear follow-ups.
  • Using 236S/214S or 22S ends the string.

Example of a full string: Air Second Gear > Follow-ups > Accel Driver > Follow-ups > Finishing Driver > Follow-ups > Power Blitz Charge

Top Gear

5L/M during Gear string

No results
  • Very useful and quick frame trap.
  • Amazing scaling, deletes health bars if 17 has resources to spare.

All M Gears deal more damage and have more range than L versions, with the extended range varying between moves.

Second Gear

6L/M during Gear string

No results
  • Despite being an overhead attack, it doesn't have head property, meaning the move can't be 2H'd/anti-aired.
  • Has an abhorring 60% initial proration, whereas other rekka moves have 70% when used as a combo starter.
  • M version has enourmous range.

The rekka "mixup." While technically reactable, opponents waiting to block it or mash against it are more vulnerable to pressure resets or Barrier.

Low Gear

2L/M during Gear string

No results
  • 70% scaling, 17 has to work to get meaningful damage out of this move.
  • M version doesn't have as much range as the other follow-ups.

The low for 17's rekka "mixup." Can be made a little more difficult to react to if done from the 4L/M follow-up as it resembles Second Gear, but smart opponents will fuzzy block it. Best used as a second frametrap after a Top Gear should opponents not get hit by the first frametrap.

Fake Out

4L/M during Gear string

No results
  • Jumps forward and then fast falls down.
  • Just like the overhead, the M version travels almost fullscreen.

The high fakeout, best used in tandem with Low Gear. Almost useless if Low Gear or Second Gear has already been used in the string as there is no more mixup.

Reverse Gear

5H/S during Gear string

No results
  • Press L/M/H/S to trigger the attack. Smash hit causes a wall bounce.
  • S version can only cancel into the attack after absorbing a hit. Gains 25% Ki gauge each hit absorbed.
  • H version can use Ki Blast follow-up at any point. Doesn't gain meter from successful block, but can guard against Supers.
    • Can not use follow ups after H version if blocked, but can jail into vanish. Only use this if you have 1.5 bars if you ran out of assists.

Mash callout tool that also nets 17 a nice combo. The attack builds a ton of meter by itself from the S version of the barrier. The H version is useful to get a combo if 17 doesn't have assists available or doesn't want to spend them. In most cases, even a mildly optimized combo will build the meter back.

Z Assists

Assist A

Reverse Gear

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
800 All 40 +35 11-33 Guard
  • Does barrier > Ki Blast followup, absorbed hits don't give any meter.
  • Barrier activates at the 10th frame.
  • Wall bounces on hit with really good hitstop and hitstun.

17's best all around assist and especially useful for command grab characters. The barrier portion stops mashers and the built-in attack is great for punishing them or stopping jumps. It takes some time to get used to the timing in a combo but the long hitstop and hitstun make it a great combo tool to boot.

Assist B

Power Blitz Charge

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
800 All 20 +40
  • Only does the charge.
  • Point 17's Power Blitz will be charged after this assist is used.
  • Has some issues with where 17 spawns in which can make it whiff after lariat-style moves.

Fast, high blockstun assist. Can be useful for fuzzy guard style mixups but is generally outclassed by his A assist.

Assist C

Accel Driver

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
450×2, 400 All 35 [20] +55
  • His first two hits of the rekka sequence.
  • Even being a blockstun type C-assist, it has anti-air properties in his first hit, which makes it a little bit better than the others of its kind.
  • Tracks opponents, though it remains on the ground.

17's C assist is a tracking, +50 anti-air assist. Not a bad choice if you really want a C assist due to it having some extra utility, but his A assist is generally more applicable.

Super Moves

Endgame

236L+M

Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
2417 All UDV 7+7 -21 7-? All
  • Teleports behind you the opponent.
  • Just like Cooler, DHC early will keep you on the same side while still get reduced damage, but 17 will still appear behind the opponent.
  • KOing with this causes a kneeling animation.
  • Minimum damage 891. Non-cinematic version has minimum damage 708
  • Slow startup so Sliding Knockdown pickup is hard in some cases

Barrier Explosion

236H+S (Air OK)

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
236H+S 2322 All UDV 7+4 -21 1-? All
j.236H+S 2322 All UDV 6+4 Until L 1-? All
  • 17 covers himself in a barrier and rushes forward the opponent, covering all the screen.
  • The ground version corrects 17's position and puts him in the same height as his opponent.
  • Fully invulnerable from frame 1.
  • This is 17's DHC Super.
  • Minimum damage 817. Non-cinematic version has minimum damage 708.
  • Gives SKD, even in the air.

This super is the ultimate answer to anyone who gets too frisky with their supers. 17 can initiate drive-thru mode on that pesky Vegeta and his Final Flash, and punt him straight into the floor for only a single bar. This only adds to the annoyance factor of fighting 17, as he can usually get a free punish out of this, waste the opponent's meter, and it sets up nicely for DHC into another character. Often, when you are in the air, it may be worth spending the bar for a knockdown with this super, especially if your damage has been heavily scaled by a light, where 5S into aerial Second Gear just falls short. You may also have to choose this super over Endgame if you want to keep your side.

This super confirms that mashing against 17 is a terrible idea. Do not use raw supers against 17.

Super Electric Strike

214L+M (Air OK) or 214H+S (Air OK)

Version Damage Guard Smash Startup Active Recovery On-Block Invuln
214L+M 320×15 All UDV 10+3 -42 1-18 All
j.214L+M 320×15 All UDV 10+3 Until L 1-18 All
  • Ground version makes 17 jump back a little bit.
  • Minimum damage: 1680, so does not scale horribly despite low raw damage

Pretty solid as a reversal, although that would ignore how awesome Barrier Explosion is. Takes up most of the screen in all directions, thus the opponent cannot just jump over it to escape, although it has pretty underwhelming damage compared to other projectile supers. However, it doesn't scale too badly despite the low raw damage, meaning it's a solid combo ender if you have meter to burn.

Colors

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