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Introduction

Special thanks to Spark, Seigi and von_yaourt for taking the time to read to it and add suggestions. Schneider-X for reading, writing and correcting several parts of the guide.

Note: This guide doesn’t include a combo section, so here are some useful combo resources.

BBCF2 Combo guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dw4uFemTFwtT8snGO2RUBgmrFOEil6-rV0aA_5HW6nc/edit# BBCF Practical BnB by KirbyMorph: https://youtu.be/xDDREu7AA4U

If you notice any mistake, would like to suggest something or would like any further information, please feel free to contact me on Discord (The_undercover_beret#9482).

This guide uses terms that are common fighting games terminology (Neutral, mix-up, tiger Knee…). If you do not understand one of them, you can check its definition in Dustloop’s glossary and notations

Neutral

The neutral is at the core of Haku-men’s playstyle. He benefits from strong long range pokes: 4C on the ground and J.C in the air. One of your top priorities with Haku-men should be to learn the exact range of those pokes to use them properly. Video: 4C’s range Video: 4C's combos Video: J.C’s range Those pokes define Haku-men’s neutral. They both are amazing tools thanks to their range and high raw damage, and as such, only a few characters can contest them at max distance. Moreover, landing several of them will deal significant damage without consuming meter. This is particularly useful at the start and the end of a round to respectively gain the life lead and keep your opponent at bay while stocking up on magatamas. On the negative side, 4C requires a CH to get a combo and a max range 4C doesn’t lead to much. Be careful when using 4C, as it has quite a lot of recovery and a large hurtbox before the active frames. Moreover, both 4C and J.C are susceptible to moves that can low profile and 4C can be punished with a well-spaced IAD. Video: 4C vs. low profile moves

At close range, Haku-men also has a few neat tools. 2B has deceptively long range for its animation and is very fast for a 2B (8 frames of start-up). His 2A’s reach is one of the best in the game as well. Video: 2A's range and a combo Video: 2B's range and a combo

A very common mistake while starting Haku-men is the overuse of Haku-men’s subpar C-normals (3C, 6C, J.2C) at the expense of his other more solid normals, like 2A and 2B. Those C-normals are slow and easily punishable. Autopiloting 3C in neutral and blockstrings is especially bad, as it’s -12, non cancellable and leaves Haku-men crouched. The earlier the players get rid of that bad habit, the better. Autopiloting 3C and getting punished for that can cost games. Getting rid of such habits may be hard, but are worth it in the long run. Ironically, 2A and 2B are also often more rewarding since 3C and 6C most of the time require a CH to combo, whereas 2A and 2B are special cancellable and lead to solid combos at a low cost.

Haku-men gains meter passively, as such, turtling from fullscreen to get meter and waiting for your opponent to approach and intercept with his superior pokes or OD into a powerful combo is a very effective playstyle.

Mobility

Haku-men cannot run, instead he has to rely on short hops, so adjusting the distance accordingly can be tricky at times. It also makes approaching tougher, but he has several tools at his disposal. Both his forward hop and backdash are fast, and his walking speed is decent.

Haku-men holds two excellent special to approach 623AA and 214D. If used wisely, those moves turn into remarkable weapons that can turn the tide of a match.

623AA is invulnerable to body and head attribute moves. It does a formidable job at dealing with pokes, jumps and air dashes. It's -4 on block but can be special cancelled into any other special move to frame trap or make it safe. On the flip side, It’s weak against projectiles, throws and lows, other characters can deal with it with strong low normals, like Jin with his 3C, so don’t be predictable with it. Video: 623AA’s range and combos.

To compensate 623AA’s weaknesses, you can rely on 214D, it’s more costly than 623AA but is invulnerable to everything but grabs. If it catches a move, Haku-men will be fully invincible until he recovers, making it very useful to approach zoners. However, It has a long start-up before the attack and is punishable (-7), if it doesn’t catch any attack or if you don’t have any meter left to cancel it into another special. Video: 214D’s range and combos. Video: 214D’s limit Video: Punishing 214D

Nevertheless, you shouldn’t solely count on them. No matter how strong they are, they have their weaknesses and over-relying will leave you vulnerable to strong punishes.

Haku-men's air dash covers a lot of distance, however it has a long animation, which makes it easy to anti-air. To circumvent that, you can rely on J.D and J.214A.

If timed correctly J.D will catch and counter any anti-air attempts, this move is hard to punish in CF2, since it no longer cancels Haku-men’s momentum and has no minimum height requirement. Still, Haku-men will be vulnerable while falling after J.D so be careful when doing it from an high position. Anti-airs that can be jump cancelled on block can block the counter grab if the opponent reacts fast enough. Video: Using J.D to counter anti-airs

J.214A is a unique air tool, it has every attack property which means it can bypass anti-airs and moves that are also body invincible, like Valkenhayn’s 6A for instance. It also cancels the momentum in the air and has a large hitbox, which can be used after a high jump to make anti-air whiffs and punish them. The attack will only lose to fully invulnerable moves like DPs or moves with full armor. Video: Using J.214A to bypass anti-airs’ invulnerabilities Video: Using J.214A to make anti-airs whiff

Another approach is to IAD and then using J.A. This can be used to preemptively defeat air-to-air and protect Haku-men against air grabs. This also helps timing an air move as close to the ground as possible and correcting the direction after an IAD cross-up. Video: IAD J.A J.C sideswitch

J.2C has a great downward and forward hitbox. Combined with Haku-men’s long air dash, it’s possible to hit an opponent from nearly fullscreen with an IAD J.2C. However as stated above, this is predictable and J.2C is slow. Therefore, it’s easily anti-aired. Video: Using IAD J.2C to approach

Nonetheless, approaching zoners with fullscreen anti-airs remains an arduous task. Fortunately, Haku-men can cut projectiles in the air with any sword normal with J.2A being the most commonly used. It benefits from having a large hitbox in front of Haku-men as well as a lot of active frames. As such, IAD J.2A is efficient way to approach zoners while cutting their projectiles. But be careful, you can still get CH if you input J.2A too late. Video: Using J.2A to cut projectiles

Additionally, Haku-men has an advanced mobility option. He can cancel his forward hop (66) with a jump while keeping the hop’s momentum. This is done by inputting the jump very quickly after the forward hop. This is especially useful with a forward jump to get a lot of momentum and travel long distances. Video: Example in neutral Video: Example on okizeme

Anti-air

Even though Haku-men has a lot of anti-air options, they are all situational and require a proper read of the game.

2C is officially Haku-men's anti-air and it boasts a huge vertical hitbox and lead to extremely rewarding combos on CH. Sadly, it's a little slow and the invulnerability comes late. This means that you have to anticipate your opponent's movements to use it. Its biggest drawback, however, is its 33 frames recovery, making easily punishable if it whiffs and to add salt to the injury it leaves Haku-men crouched, which tends to lead to even more punishing combos. On block, it’s special cancellable into 214A and 623A to make it safe. Video: Example using AA 2C

5A can act like an anti-air since it has a meager 5-frame of start-up and has a surprisingly decent vertical and horizontal hitbox. 5A is the kind of anti-air that you use when your opponent is attempting something right next to you, but not if they are too high or too far. It's usability also suffers from the understandable lack of invulnerability, which hinders its usefulness against mix-up/pressure using jumps. Video: Example using AA 5A

Sometimes, both of them are hard to use, in particular against ambiguous cross-ups, since they may come out in the wrong direction. In that case, 5D, 6D and 236236D can work as alternatives to catch jump-ins. However, they are easily defeated by empty jumps and safe jumps. Video: Example using 5D

623AA has invincibility to head and body attributes move, per se, it can be considered an anti-air. It’s hard to use it at such, since it moves Haku-men forward a lot and most of the time, both 623AA and your opponent’s jump-in will whiff. However, since it moves Haku-men forward it makes it very effective at dealing with air backdashes. Video: Using 623AA air backdashes Video: Using 623AA against Izayoi's GA backdash

Overall, 5A is the anti-air that is the most practical, 2C and counters require a greater a understanding of the match's flow, but they shouldn't be ignored regardless. While his anti-airs options aren't that great, they somewhat cover each other weaknesses. Therefore, you are not the only one who has to make the right choice, but your opponent will have to do it as well.

Air-to-air

As stated in the neutral section, J.C is one of Haku-men's strongest tool, as it's one of the air-to-air with the longest reach in the game. A properly spaced J.C can shut down all of your opponent's air-to-air options. So learning how to use it properly is mandatory.

His other air-to air options are nothing to scoff at either.

J.A is a very fast air-to-air. It possesses a generous hitbox for a J.A as well as little recovery, it can be used to preemptively beat air approaches or to apply pressure on the opponent after an air dash. Video: Using airdash J.A to apply pressure Video: Using rising J.A to beat jump-ins

J.B is a bit slower but has a bigger hitbox and leads to higher rewards on CH. On block, it can be cancelled into J.A or J.2A to keep the pressure going until landing. It also has an excellent hitbox especially in the back. As such, it’s a strong move after a cross-up. Video: Using rising J.B to beat jump-ins Video: Maintaining the pressure with air gatlings.

J.2A benefits from having a lot of active frame and a large hitbox. It can be used if you anticipate that your opponent will airdash and to hit them in the middle of their airdash. And as stated in the mobility section, it also cuts projectiles making it an excellent defensive air-to-air. Video: Using rising J.2A to beat jump-ins

When to use which then? J.A is more effective at close range since it has a smaller hitbox and and is faster, whereas J.2A is more adequate from further (about roundstart distance plus one backdash). J.B is an in-between, and can be useful after an IAD to get a strong combo on CH.

J.2C and J.214A can be used as air-to-air as well by exploiting their big hitboxes below them. After an high jump, it’s possible to hit an opponent below you to gain the advantage or to punish an air move that whiffed.

Video: Using J.214A to hit below you.

Offense

Hakumen’s offense is very situational and subpar. His mix-up tools are very basic and not too effective. Mainly because extending pressure requires using specials and therefore consuming precious meter.

His options are limited and his overheads are easy to read. As such, Haku-men relies more on frame-traps and throw reject miss setups. His okizeme options are also fairly limited, but are good at discouraging the opponent not to roll on wake up and can be surprisingly rewarding if your opponent doesn't know how to deal with them.

Mix-up

Now let’s take a look at the most common mix-up options.

2A > 2A > 2B or 6B: Basic meterless high/low mixup. On instant block, there is a gap between 2A > 2A and 2A > 2B and it’s therefore weak against reversals, but this hardly ever happens. By delaying the 2B this mix-up act as a frame-trap and will prevent fuzzy blocking.

2A > (Delay) Throw: Basic throw mix-up. Keep in mind that if 2A is barriered the throw will whiff. Delay the throw to beat the Barrier/Tech throw OS.

2A/5B/2B/5C/2C > 236B/41236C: A high-low mixup that uses meter, be wary since Zantetsu has a rather obvious animation and is easily reactable with a bit of practice, so don’t get predictable with it. Delaying the 236B prevents fuzzy blocking.

2A/2B/5B/5C/2C > 623A > Throw: The other throw mix-up, reacting to 623A is difficult and it narrows the gap between both players, making it less vulnerable to barrier.

2B/5B/5C/2C > 214A > 2A: Pressure extender, like 623A it brings you closer to the opponent. 214A is only +1 on block, so if it's instant blocked, 2A can be interrupted.

2A > 5B: Basic frame trap. There is a 2-frame gap between 2A and 5B. Be careful when using it, because 5B can whiff if you are too far or if 2A is barriered.

5B > 2B/6B: Meterless high/low mix-up. There is a 2-frame gap between 5B and 2B, making it also a useful frame-trap. 5B > 2B/6B is harder to use as 2B and 6B often if 5B is barriered. 2A > 5B > 2B works at close range even if both 2A and 5B are barriered, but not 2A > 2A > 5B > 2B. With 2A > 5B > 6B, 6B will whiff if either 2A or 5B is barriered.

2A > Slight delay 6A: Basic frame-trap. which helps narrowing the distance between the 2 players. It’s a little trickier to use as it comes with a few drawbacks.

6A is -1 on block and only gatling into 6B and drives, so no matter what you are doing after 6A, you’ll have to take a risk. 6A > 6B is gapless, but 6B is -4 and easy to IB after a 6A. 6A and 6B can both be cancelled by drives, however, it’s an even riskier gamble as it leaves you open to even greater punishes.

If an opponent respects you, you can use 6A > 2A/2B to continue the pressure or beat someone expecting a 6B and blocking high respectively. But there is a wide gap between 6A and 2A/2B due to the lack of gatlings.

Those are the most useful ones, he can extend his pressure by using additional specials, but it’s not recommended since meter is precious and the reward won’t be worthwhile.

Okizeme

This section will only cover the basic okizeme options, for more details - check the okizeme evernote:

As mentioned prior, Hakumen’s oki is pretty weak as he doesn’t really have any options to keep the opponent locked down after a knockdown. However, he can cover a quite a few defensive options.

His 3 main okizeme are 6B, J.214A and 3C. Arguably, 6B is the best one and 3C the worst one.

3C is the easiest to get, it can be done after a grounded hit 2A and therefore a common ender for 0 and 1 magatama combos. 3C isn't that great, since it has a lot of recovery and you don't get much frame advantage out of it.

Examples: 2A > 2A > 3C; 2B > 2A > 3C; 2A > 2B > 214A > 2A > 3C. 3C > Hop 2A/2B: 2A can be used as a meaty, but it loses to rolls. 2B has a lot of active frames, so will catch a lot of opponents if they try to roll forward or backward and you can pick them up for an additional combo. This will lose to most reversals and delayed neutral tech.

J.214A is one of the main air combo ender Haku-men has: J.B2A > jc > J.2AC and J.B2A > jc > J.B2A > J.214A. The former is meterless ender that sends the opponent flying across the screen and therefore a return to neutral. The latter provides a knockdown at the cost of a magatama. In the corner, it gets strengthened a little with J.B2A > jc > J.2AC > J.214A.

Example: 2A > 2B > 623AA > 5B > J.B2A > jc > J.B2A > J.214A J.214A > Falling J.2C: The standard J.214A okizeme ender after J.214A, J.2C prevents rolls if done low enough and acts as a safe-jump. The options after J.214A are very telegraphed and won't be effective against players with match-up knowledge. Regardless, it remains a decent ender, since there is very little thing that can be done against it.

6B has more hitstun than 3C and often leaves you close to the opponent, as such more options are available. 6B is a little trickier to get midscreen. It requires hitting with 6A. This is mainly done with 2A > 6A, which is only possible at close range. In the corner, however, it is widely accessible. Routes featuring 236B and J.214B can end with ... J.C > 5C > 6A > 6B.

Examples: 2B > 214A > 2A > 6A > 6B; 2B > 236B > IAD J.2A > J.C > 5C > 6A > 6B. 6B > 6A(whiff) > 2A: A very solid okizeme, 6A prevents rolls and 2A hits meaty. 6B > 9jc > J.A (whiff) > J.2C: Another safe-jump, but it loses to rolls.

Punishes

Hakumen possess some of the highest damage output of the roster. In fact, he can defeat an opponent very quickly before they get their burst stock back off of a good combo starter. Combined with his Overdrive, punishes can be the best way for Hakumen to turn a match in his favor. It’s important to know when to punish the opponent and what moves to use.

The cornerstone of Haku's punishing game is his overdrive, it's one of the best one in the game. It increases his meter gain meter through the roof allowing us to fully use his high-damage special in combos for a short period. Haku is also the character who exploits EA at the end of combos the best, since it knockdowns and still deal a high amount of damage with AF.

Here is a basic OD combos which can be done at mid-life and with a bit more than 5 magatama.

Optimizing OD combos is tricky, as a wide range of routes are available and they heavily depends on the length of your overdrive and the amount of magatama available at the start the combo. However, most of the basic routes deal similar damage under the same circumstances. If you want to know more OD combos, here is a link to Haku-men’s combo guide.

Now let's cover Haku's moves which are used for punishing:

5C is Haku-men's trademark move. As seen in the example above, tt boasts an amazing proration and hitbox, it's very easy to combo after it. It can be immediately canceled into overdrive as well, but there is a small window to burst between 5C and OD. On CH, it's possible to block the burst and punish it with another 5C. Video: 5C CH OD burst bait

3C, or to be more accurate 3C CH, is a very effective punish option that leads to high damage combo at a low cost, 3C is faster and has a bit more reach than 5C. However, unlike 5C, 3C can't be cancelled into OD. The main drawbacks of 3C is that it requires a CH to combo and it's easily punishable if it whiffs or if it's blocked. Video: 3C CH combo Video: Why 3C on block is bad

6C fatal counters and is Haku-men's move with the best proration, but it's more situational since it's fairly slow, requires a CH and doesn't lead to combos if it hits an airborne opponent midscreen. It's main usefulness is to punish an opponent's reversal. Video: 6C FC combo

As a last resort, OD + 214214B can be used to turn the tables. Mugen combos are extremely powerful, so any stray hit could win you the game, but this comes at a great cost, if it fails, this will empty your meter and burst. Video: Punishing Kagura’s EA with OD and Mugen

For a more detailed explanation about Mugen, here is the Haku-men combo guide’s Mugen’s section

Defense

Defense is arguably one of the most important aspects of learning Hakumen, his movement is limited and some of his better neutral pokes have a lot recovery, so sometimes the best solution is to just block and wait for a chance to counterattack. Fortunately, Hakumen has the defensive tools to do just that.

Haku-men’s drive is called Zanshin, it deploys a shield in front of him. If an opponent physical moves hit it, Haku-men will initiate a command grab motion and perform a counter. Each of Haku-men’s counter has different properties and catch different types of moves. However, they all lose to throws and the command grab won’t occur if a projectile is caught. If a move is caught, it’s possible to perform a special move instead of the command grab. That special will be fully invincible for 9 frames. This also works with projectiles, which is very useful against projectile okizeme. Video: Using Drives cancel into a special to avoid okizeme.

5D has 6f startup and can be held to increase its active frames, at the cost of having more recovery. A good move to catch most air approaches. You can also use it to play mind games with your opponent due to it’s longer than average active frame window when held. It catches moves that are high or mid, but it loses to lows. Video: Using 5D against jump-ins + combo

2D is active on the first frame. But this comes at the cost of the move having a lot of recovery if not activated. Newer players will probably struggle using 2D at first, it can be extremely hard to time and doesn’t have as large an active frame window as 5D. However, mastering it and it becomes one of Hakumen’s best tools for disrupting opponent’s pressure due to its speed and catching an opponent’s meaty attempts. It catches lows and mid, but loses to overheads. Video: Using 2D against lows + combo

Just like 2D, 6D is active on the first frame but catches high instead of lows. Unlike 5D and 2D it blows the opponent away instead of knocking them down. 6D leads to combos in the corner and to safe-jumps midscreen. It's usefulness is further strengthened by the fact that it can be used on reaction to counters overheads. Arguably, Haku-men's best drive. Video: Using 6D against overheads + combo

6B can also be used to crush moves with foot attributes, which includes lows and other moves like 2A/3C. On CH, 6B leads to strong combos with little resources. The invulnerability doesn’t start until the 4th frame, so it can’t be used while blocking. But can be useful on wake-up or in neutral. Video: Using 6B CH against lows.

J.D is an airborne counter and catches lows, highs and mids. This move is used to counter characters with strong air-to-airs and anti-airs. As of CF2, it doesn’t cancel the momentum in mid-air anymore making it much harder to punish. Video: Using J.D to counter anti-airs + 2 combos

Yukikaze (236236D) is the distortion-drive counterpart to Zanshin and his Haku-men's strongest defensive option. It's active on the 1st frame and catches highs, mids and lows and lands a strong, 1-hit slash (3200) and you can continue to combo by spending additional meter. On successful catch of a physical move, Yukikaze will freeze the opponent and not allow them to rapid cancel, overdrive cancel, or special cancel to escape the follow up. It's a deadly move as it can be used to end the round without letting your opponent burst and to escape or punish high/low okizeme and mix-ups. Video: Using Yukikaze against high/low mix-ups

If it catches a projectile, the opponent is not locked in place and can escape it by double-jumping or using a move with a lot of invulnerability or armor. However, Yukikaze is unblockable and safe as long it activates, since Hakumen is invulnerable for the entire animation of the move. As such, this can be used to escape projectile based okizeme and force a return to neutral. Video: Evading projectile oki with Yukikaze

Lastly, a common habit that most new Hakumen players fall into is relying on counters instead of just blocking; They are effective tools, but is not a substitute for good blocking skills; They are vulnerable to throws and the recovery will leave you exposed, so try to understand when is a good time to use it. A tool is only as good as its wielder after all.

When should you use them then? Well, the correct answer is enough so that they work but not too much so that you don't get punished for using them, consequently this will depend on the opponent in front of you. Some players rely on grabs more often against Haku-men, making his counters harder to use.

To circumvent that, you can really on TK J.214B as it puts Haku-men airborne. It's invincible too so it can also beats air approaches and pokes if timed correctly. It whiffs if your opponent is crouched and therefore doesn’t work against meaty 2A and 2B. Video: Beating grabs with TK J.214B

A more high-risk/high-reward option is J.214C. It deals a lot of damage by itself and fatal counters. Be extremely cautious with this one, since it has no invulnerability at all, will solely beat grabs and you will lose even more magatama if it fails than with J.214B. Video: Beating grabs with TK J.214C

Sadly, counters don’t replace a real reversal and Haku-men relies a lot on Yukikaze to get out of tight situations. A solid defense and nerves of steel are mandatory with Haku-men.

Though not specific to Haku-men, in Blazblue, there is an option select to barrier and tech grabs at the same time. This is done by inputting 1ABC or 4ABC. The point of this OS is to tech grabs without risking doing a grab if it was a bait. This has to be done soon before the grab or it will result in a Throw Reject Miss. Be warned, a skilled opponent will varies with timing of his grab to counter it. Still, this is a very useful option select that you should learn and implement in your game.

If you are having trouble against someone’s blockstrings or okizeme, the best thing to do is to save the replay, analyse them and replicate them in training mode to find their flaws.

Fighting Hakumen

In neutral, the tools you have to look for in most match-ups are usually 4C and 623AA. To beat 4C, either beat before it's active or use a move to go under it. To beat 623AA, use a low move with a long reach (Ie: Jin's 3C, Izanami's 2B...)

Grabs, if use efficiently, are very strong against Haku-men as it will deter the use of drive. Don't overuse as it can be OD through and lead to a strong punish with 5B or even 5C if timed correctly.

6B is -4, -7 on IB, but be wary about punishing it as it can be cancelled into a drive. 3C is -12 and can't be cancelled into anything.

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+In neutral, the tools you have to look for in most match-ups are usually 4C and 623AA. To beat 4C, either beat before it's active or use a move to go under it. To beat 623AA, use a low move with a long reach (Ie: Jin's 3C, Izanami's 2B...)
+Grabs, if use efficiently, are very strong against Haku-men as it will deter the use of drive. Don't overuse as it can be OD through and lead to a strong punish with 5B or even 5C if timed correctly.
+B is -4, -7 on IB, but be wary about punishing it as it can be cancelled into a drive.
+C is -12 and can't be cancelled into anything.
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