GGXRD-R2/Venom/Combos

Combo Notation Guide

Character Name Abbreviations

7 Template:7 8 Template:8 9 Template:9 4 Template:4 5 Template:5 6 Template:6 1 Template:1 2 Template:2 3 Template:3 Numbers represent direction on a keyboard numpad. For example Template:2Template:3Template:6 becomes 236. > = Proceed from the previous move to the following move. , = Link the previous move into the following move. -> = Cancel the previous special into a follow-up special. |> or ▷ = After landing. j = Jump sj = High Jump IAD = Instant Air Dash CH = Counter Hit MC = Mortal Counter JC = Jump Cancel DJC = Double Jump Cancel SJC = Super Jump Cancel JI = Jump Install RRC = Red Roman Cancel YRC = Yellow Roman Cancel PRC = Purple Roman Cancel [ ] = Hold input. ] [ = Release input. (X) = X is optional. (N) = Attack must deal N amount of hits. [???]xN = Repeat ??? N amount of times. [X]or[Y] = Perform series of actions X or Y.

AN = Answer AX = Axl BA = Baiken BE = Bedman CH = Chipp DI = Dizzy EL = Elphelt FA = Faust IN = I-No JA = Jam JC = Jack-O JO = Johnny KU = Haehyun KY = Ky LE = Leo MA = May MI = Millia PO = Potemkin RA = Ramlethal RV = Raven SI = Sin SL = Slayer SO = Sol VE = Venom ZT = Zato

Venom Specific Notation

Charged Balls

Venom's balls can be one of 4 levels: 0, 1, 2, and 3.

Unless otherwise stated one can assume that specials will always be used to produce level 0 balls.

If a special will be used to create a ball other than level 0 the notation will be Move(LN) where N is the level of the ball.

Spin

Venom's Carcass Raid and Stinger Aim specials cause an effect known as "spin" when they make contact with an inactive ball. Unless stated otherwise the default ball behavior, Top-Spin, will be assumed.

Back-Spin is the alternate ball movement and works as follows:

• To backspin a Stinger press down at approximately the time that the stringer ball is created.
• To backspin a Carcass Raid press back instead.

Combo List

• All damage values are damage dealt to Sol unless the combo cannot work on him, in which case the character with the closest defense modifier is used.
• Entries listed in DarkKhaki are either optional or situational.
• Damage values listed for combos with optional combo parts assume the highest damage variation unless otherwise stated.

Standard Combos

cS starter

Combo	Position	Damage	Tension Gain	Works on:	Difficulty	Notes
2K > cS(3) > IAD > jSHD ▷ 6H	any	120	20	all standing	[1] very easy MA: [2] easy	Must delay before jS for millia.
2K > cS(2) > kQV > 5K > 6P BH > 6H	any	116	22	all crouching	[1] very easy	In the corner can be ended with QV.
2K > cS(3) > IAD > jSHD ▷ 6H > pQV	corner	130	24	all standing	[1] very easy	Grants P ball. Must delay before jS for millia.
2K > cS(3) > IAD > jSHD ▷ 6H > sQV > 5P > IAD > jSHD ▷ 6H > pQV	corner	164	28	middle weights standing	[1] very easy	Grants P ball.
2K > cS(2) > sQV > 5p BH > IAD > jSHD ▷ 6H	any	125	23	all crouching	[2] easy	In the corner can be ended with QV.
2K > cS(3) > kQV > 6P BH > 6H > pQV > 5P > 6H	corner	152	23	all standing -heavy weights	[2] easy
cS(2) > 5H > sQV > 6P BH > IAD > jSHD > 6H > QV	corner	169	25	all crouching-heavy weights	[2] easy
2K > cS(3) > pQV > 66 jKSH > (delay) jD ▷ 6H	midscreen	123	23	all standing -heavy weights	[3] medium	Grants P ball. the delay timing on jH and jD is character specific.
2K > cS(3) > sQV > 66 jKSH > (delay) jD ▷ 66 > jKSH > (delay) jD ▷ 6H > pQV	corner	141	27	all standing -heavy weights	[4] tricky	Grants S and P ball. the delay timing on jH and jD is character specific.
2K > cS(3) > pQV > 66 jKSH > (delay) jD ▷ 66 > jKSH > (delay) jD ▷ 6H	midscreen	138	27	all standing -heavy weights	[5] hard	Extension of normal variant. Grants P ball. the delay timing on jH and jD is character specific.
2K > cS(3) > IAD > jSH > (delay) jD ▷ 66 > jKSH > (delay) jD ▷ 6H > sDarkAngel	corner	166	-30	all standing	[5] hard	The delay timing on jH and jD is character specific.
2K > cS(3) > IAD > jSH > (delay) jD ▷ 66 > jKSH > (delay) jD ▷ 6H	any	144	25	all standing	[5] hard	the delay timing on jH and jD is character specific

 Note: Potemkin, Leo, Bedman, and Haehyun can be combo'ed using cS(3) while they are crouching. Other characters must be combo'ed with cS(2) routes.

miscellaneous starters

Combo	Position	Damage	Tension Gain	Works on:	Difficulty	Notes
6P > cS(1) > jPH	any	70	12	all	[1] very easy	cS is preferred, but only works at very close range.
[pQV > 66 5P]x4 > 6H	midscreen	125	20	VE, JO	[5] hard	QV walk. For Style Points.
TK hMS(1st kick hit) > RRC > pSet > 6H > kQV > 6P BH > 6H > sQV > 6P > IAD > jSHD > 6H	corner	~250	-~35	EL standing	[6] very hard	Damage, and timings vary based on MS height and hits.

Throw Combos

ground throw starter

Combo	Position	Damage	Tension Gain	Works on:	Difficulty	Notes
corner throw > 6H > kQV > cS(2) > 6P BH > 6H > pQV	corner	91	22	all	[1] very easy	Grants P ball.
corner throw > 44 6P > kQV > 6P BH > 6H	corner	75	15	all	[1] very easy	burst safe
throw > 66 2H > sCR > 6H	midscreen	64	25	all	[1] very easy
throw > 66 5H > kQV(level 1)	midscreen	46	10	all	[1] very easy	Grants Level 1 K ball.
throw > 66 cS(3) > sCR > IAD > jSHD ▷ 6H	midscreen	75	20	all	[2] easy
throw > 66 5H > kQV(L1) > sSA(L1) Top-Spin BH > sSA(L0) BH > 66 5P BH	midscreen	N/A	25	all	[3] medium	Not a real combo, forces the opponent to choose between losing tension or taking massive amounts of chip damage which ignores guts. Also allows for strong mixups with the last charged ball.
corner throw > 44 6P > kQV > 6P BH > 6H > kQV > 6P BH > IAD > jSHD ▷ 6H > pQV	corner	215	21	middle weights	[5] hard	Burst Punish. Grants P ball.
corner throw > 44 6P > kQV > 66 5P > 6P BH > 6H > pQV > 5P BH > IAD > jSHD ▷ 6H > sQV > 6P > IAD > jSHD ▷ 6H	corner	267	26	light weights	[6] very hard	Burst Punish.
throw > 66 6P > IAD > jD > IAD > jSHD ▷ 66 > jKSHD ▷ 6H	corner	100	20	all	[6] very hard	coast to coast corner carry. must HJ on the second IAD against May, I-No, Ram, and Baiken. Initial dash must be extra short against Elphelt.

air throw starter

Combo	Position	Damage	Tension Gain	Works on:	Difficulty	Notes
throw ▷ cS(1) > kSet > 66 6P > 6H	midscreen	64	15	all	[1] very easy
low corner throw ▷ cS(1) > JC > jKSHD ▷ 6H > pQV	corner	74	15	all	[1] very easy

Counter-hit Combos

 Note: these combos are only possible if the starter is a counter-hit.

QV starter

Combo	Position	Damage	Tension Gain	Works on:	Difficulty	Notes
6P > 6H	all	70	8	all	[1] very easy	please do not auto pilot this
hQV > 66 6P > 6H	midscreen	116	10	all	[1] very easy
pQV > 66 5K > 6H	midscreen	95	10	all	[1] very easy
pQV > 66 5K > IAD > jSHD > 6H	midscreen	145	15	midscreen	[3] medium
5H > sQV > [5P > pQV]x5 > 5P > 6H	corner	176	24	VE	[5] hard
kQV > 66 jS > jS > JC jSH > (delay) jD > 6H > sQV > 6P > 6H	midscreen	156	20	middle weights	[5] hard

2D Combos

Combo	Position	Damage	Tension Gain	Works on:	Difficulty	Notes
2D(1) > P-in-K BH > kQV > 6P BH > 6H	any	150	12	all -heavy weights	[1] very easy	requires a PK ball setup before the combo starts
2D(2) > hDHM(3) > RRC > 66 jKSH > (delay) jD ▷ 6H > pQV	any	~125	-35	all	[2] easy	number of hits on hDHM changes timings.
2D(1) > P-in-K BH > pQV > 5p BH > IAD > jKSHD ▷ 6H	any	153	20	all -heavy weights	[4] tricky	requires a PK ball setup before the combo starts
2D(1) > sCR > 66 cS(1) > HJC jKSHD ▷ 6H	corner	145	15	all	[4] tricky

5D Combos

Combo	Position	Damage	Tension Gain	Works on:	Difficulty	Notes
5D6 > [5H]x3 > 6H	corner	113	18	all	[1] very easy
5D8 > jD > jD > jKS DJC > jKSHD	any	107	20	all	[1] very easy	does not give oki
5D6 > 5H > 5H > Hset > [sQV > 5P]x2 > 6H	corner	112	22	all	[2] easy
5D6 > 5H > 5H > Hset > cS(2) > BRO > [2P > sCR]x5 > 2D	corner	135	-45	all	[2] easy	Style points

Instant Kill Combos

Combo	Position	Tension Required	Works on:	Difficulty	Notes
throw > RRC > Instant Kill	any	100	all	[2] easy
throw towards corner > 5p > Instant Kill	corner	50	all	[2] easy
5D6 > RRC > Instant Kill	corner	100	all	[2] easy

Combo Theory

Desired Starters

Venom's midscreen combos for the most part can be split into two types: standing and crouching confirms.

Standing Opponents

cS(3) is your ideal starter against standing opponents in addition to Potemkin, Bedman, Haehyun, and Leo in their crouching state.

cS(3) launches the opponent into the air. cS(3) launcher can be followed up with an IAD or a QV. IAD timings vary based on character weight and air hurtboxes. Against Jam and Millia the delay needs to be longer, and the time before the air buttons must be longer. Sometimes 2866 is easier on an individual basis. It even works with a prorated starter (5P, 2P, 5K, or 2K). Against Lightweights it’s easier to follow up cS(3) with the QV 669 route, but this QV route does not work on heavy weights.

Crouching Opponents

2D or cS(2)/5HS > QV are your most reliable starters against crouching opponents.

2D is the easiest route, and can be chained into from any normal which does not cause a knockdown except for 5H. Spacing matters because at max range 2K>2D will not knockdown. Alternatively one can go for QV routes which get more damage and more corner carry, but have character specific oddities.

Combo Enders

Routing for the appropriate ender is important for Venom, and the ender of choice changes his oki options.

Venom's most common enders are:

• 6H - long range ender which grants access to far 1 ball oki
• QV - grants access to 2+ ball oki and charged SSA/SCR oki. Very powerful, but often is dependent on the corner
• 2D - grants access to close 1-2 ball oki.
• jH - places the enemy directly below the point they are hit. Allows for close range 1 ball oki, or for meaty crossups

Video Examples

Combo Demonstration Playlist by Tarkus

Basic Combo Demonstrations

Standing Confirm
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Crouching Confirm
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