DBFZ/Tien/Combos: Difference between revisions

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Numbers represent direction on a keyboard numpad. For example,

+

becomes 236L.

> = Proceed from the previous move to the following move.

▷/land = Indicate that the player must land at that point in the sequence.

, = the previous move into the following move.

->/~ = the previous special into a follow-up special.

dl./delay = Delay the following move.

whiff/(whiff) = The move must whiff (not hit).

c. = Close

f. = Far

j. = Jumping/Aerial

hj./sj. = High Jump/Super Jump

jc = Jump Cancel

hjc/sjc = High Jump Cancel/Super Jump Cancel

dc/adc = Dash Cancel/Air Dash Cancel

CH = Counter Hit

AA = Anti-Air

IAS = Instant Air Special

[X] = Hold input.

]X[ = Release input.

(move) = Move is optional.

[X] or [Y] = Perform sequence X or Y.

[sequence] xN = Repeat sequence N amount of times.

(N) = Hit N of a move or move must deal N amount of hits.

DR = Dragon Rush

SD = Super Dash

A16 = Android 16

A17 = Android 17

A18 = Android 18

A21 = Android 21

L21 = Android 21 (Lab Coat)

AGH = Gohan (Adult)

BDK = Bardock

BGK = Goku (SSGSS)

BLK = Goku Black

BRO = Broly

BRS = Beerus

BVG = Vegeta (SSGSS)

CEL = Cell

CLR = Cooler

FRZ = Frieza

GKN = Goku

GKU = Goku (Super Saiyan)

GNY = Captain Ginyu

GT4 = Gogeta (SS4)

GTA = Gogeta (SSGSS)

GTG = Goku (GT)

GTK = Gotenks

GUI = Goku (Ultra Instinct)

HIT = Hit

JNB = Janemba

JRN = Jiren

KBU = Kid Buu

KEF = Kefla

KRL = Krillin

L21 = Android 21 (Lab Coat)

MBU = Majin Buu

NAP = Nappa

PIC = Piccolo

RSH = Master Roshi

SB2 = Super Baby 2

SBR = Broly (DBS)

TEN = Tien

TNK = Trunks

VDL = Videl

VGN = Vegeta

VGT = Vegeta (Super Saiyan)

VTO = Vegito (SSGSS)

YAM = Yamcha

YGH = Gohan (Teen)

ZAM = Zamasu (Fused)

Midscreen

Combo	Damage	Meter Gain	Works on:	Notes
2M > 5M > jc.M2H > SD > j.M2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M	?	?	All	Tien's basic j.2H BnB. You'll want to avoid using j.L until later in the combo due to the scaling it incurs.
5H/2H > SD > j.M2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M	?	?	All	Tien can get a sliding knockdown off of 5H due to j.236M, so don't be afraid to use it if you need the corner carry.
[DR] > SD > j.L(2)L2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M	?	?	All	Because DR scales so poorly, j.L adds damage here.
... > Vanish > dash 2M > 5M > jc.L(2)L2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M	?	?	All	Tien's autocombo doesn't work, so he uses 2M instead.
2M > 236L~H~H > 2M > 5M > jc.L(2)L2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M	?	?	All	Metered volleyball fist extension. Typically not worth the damage, but it allows you to spend meter without spending health.

Corner

Combo	Damage	Meter Gain	Works on:	Difficulty	Notes
... > 5H, 5L > 5M > jc.L(2)LS > SD > j.L(2)L2H > jc.L(2)LS > j.214L	?	?	All		5H > 5L link. Tien's main corner combo, he doesn't have a better way to extend with Smash.

Sparking

Combo	Position	Damage	Meter Gain	Works on:	Difficulty	Notes
combo transcript	where	?	?	All

Assist

Combo	Position	Damage	Meter Gain	Works on:	Difficulty	Notes
... > 2M > 236L~L~L > Assist > j.M2H > SD > j.L(2)L2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M	Anywhere	?	?	All		Works well with pop-up assists.
... > 5H > 236M~L~L > Assist > 5M > ...	Anywhere	?	?	All		Alternate combo for more corner carry.

Combo Theory

Tien's combo theory is ridiculously simple. Combo into an H move, do an air series, finish with j.2H > j.236M. It always slides, and it's very simple execution-wise.

Video Examples

Navigation

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-==Combo List==
 ==Midscreen==
-===Meterless===
+{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;text-align: center"
-*'''2M > 5M > jc > j.M2H > SD >
+|-
-*'''5M > 2M > 5S > 5H > SD >
+!  Combo !! Damage !! Meter Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes
-*'''2H > SD >
+|-
-*'''DR >
+| 2M > 5M > jc.M2H > SD > j.M2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M || ? || ? || All ||  || Tien's basic j.2H BnB. You'll want to avoid using j.L until later in the combo due to the scaling it incurs.
-All of the above combos end with the same ender:
+|-
-*'''... j.ML(2)2H > jc > j.L(2)L2H > j.236M
+| 5H/2H > SD > j.M2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M || ? || ? || All ||  || Tien can get a sliding knockdown off of 5H due to j.236M, so don't be afraid to use it if you need the corner carry.
+|-
-===Metered===
+| [DR] > SD > j.L(2)L2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M || ? || ? || All ||  || Because DR scales so poorly, j.L adds damage here.
-*'''... Vanish > 2M > 5M > jc.L(2)L2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M
+|-
-Basic vanish extension to something like a beam.
+| ... > Vanish > dash 2M > 5M > jc.L(2)L2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M || ? || ? || All ||  || Tien's autocombo doesn't work, so he uses 2M instead.
-*'''... j.236M > Vanish > DR > (Vanish)
+|-
-*'''... j.236M > land > j.214H+S
+| 2M > 236L~H~H > 2M > 5M > jc.L(2)L2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M || ? || ? || All ||  || Metered volleyball fist extension. Typically not worth the damage, but it allows you to spend meter without spending health.
-These are your two metered options that don't reduce your health. The second vanish in the first combo tacks on a little more damage, but throws away your Oki.
+|}
-*'''... j.236M > j.236L+M/j.236[L+M]/j.214L+M/j.214[L+M]
-These options do far more damage, but take your life in exchange.
 ==Corner==
-===Meterless===
+{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;text-align: center"
-*'''2M > 5M > jc > j.M2H > SD >
+|-
-*'''5M > 2M > 5S > 5H > SD >
+!  Combo !! Damage !! Meter Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes
-Tien doesn't really get a big damage boost in the corner, he gets a different ender that gives him better Oki instead.
+|-
-*'''... j.M2H > jc.L(2)LS > j.214L
+| ... > 5H, 5L > 5M > jc.L(2)LS > SD > j.L(2)L2H > jc.L(2)LS > j.214L || ? || ? || All ||  || 5H > 5L link. Tien's main corner combo, he doesn't have a better way to extend with Smash.
+|}
-Tien's new advanced corner combos look like this:
-*'''... 5M > 2M > 5S > 5H > 2L > 5M > jc.M2H > jc.LLS > SD > j.LLS > j.214L
-*'''... 5M > 2M > 5S > 5H > 2L > 5S > 5H > SD > jc.LL2H > jc.LLS > j.214L
-This actually boosts his corner damage by about 500 and gives you something else to do other than the Saiyan BnB.
-===Metered===
-Tien's metered enders are the same as his midscreen ones. Don't use vanish in a combo unless it will kill, you want to keep the corner.
-With the season 3 changes to H specials, Tien's Volleyball Fist can tack a huge amount of damage onto combos at the cost of needing to vanish for a sliding knockdown. Midscreen, smash 5H combos into 236M, and using both H followups allows Tien to pick up with 2M→5M into an air combo. In the corner, 236L scales better in combos and Tien can do a solo ToD with 2H/5H into Sparking!
+==Sparking==
+{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;text-align: center"
+|-
+!  Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Meter Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes
+|-
+| combo transcript || where || ? || ? || All ||  ||
+|}
-In Limit Break, especially with Sparking, Tien can very easily delete characters with stray hits into Volleyball Fist at the cost of a few bars.
+==Assist==
+{| class="wikitable sortable" border="1" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;text-align: center"
-==Assist Specific==
+|-
+!  Combo !! Position !! Damage !! Meter Gain !! Works on: !! Difficulty !! Notes
-===Midscreen===
+|-
-*'''5M > 2M > 236L~L~L > 16 Assist > j.M2H > SD > j.ML(2)2H > jc > j.L(2)L2H > j.236M
+| ... > 2M > 236L~L~L > Assist > j.M2H > SD > j.L(2)L2H > jc.L(2)L2H > j.236M || Anywhere || ? || ? || All ||  || Works well with pop-up assists.
-Basic assist combo. Confirmed works with 16 Assist, but probably works with a lot more. Crushing damage and a sliding knockdown.
+|-
+| ... > 5H > 236M~L~L > Assist > 5M > ... || Anywhere || ? || ? || All ||  || Alternate combo for more corner carry.
-===Corner===
+|}
 ==Combo Theory==
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 ==Video Examples==
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