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Tohru Adachi

Overview

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General Tactics

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General Strategies

The Rundown

Adachi is an offensive type of character that wants to push his opponents to the corner and run a powerful pressure game against them until they either make a mistake or respect him long enough to get command grabbed. Despite this, his actual mixup game is rather weak, and sometimes it can be hard to open people up without the right read. Adachi's mixup is done extremely close to the opponent, putting yourself to DP range. This is very important when dealing with characters such as Akihiko, who has no reason not to mash DP every time you get close to him while trying to throw, taking your momentum and putting you in a pretty bad spot.

However, his strings have pretty few gaps if he decides to stay safe, so he only needs to take the risk when he feels like it and can stay away from reversal range most of the time. Knowing when to give your opponent breathing room and when not to is very important, because, as said before, he doesn't have any way of dealing safely with DP's aside from callouts and some very specific strings.

Adachi's main strengths are his incredible Persona normals, his ability to convert pretty much anything into high damage if he has meter for it, and his very useful installs in Heat Riser and Magatsu Mandala. Adachi's main weaknesses are his reliance on Persona normals, his heavy reliance on meter to be a threat, and his lackluster defensive options.

Important Normals

Adachi's Persona normals are the star of the show here. They have massive reach, great properties, and help establish Adachi in neutral. There's no shame on relying on them at all levels of play, though their strength doesn't mean they are flawless.

On the ground, Adachi controls space in front of him with 5C, a huge disjointed normal with Persona invulnerability, making it great for poking against characters who like to throw out their Persona for space control. Even then, opponents who like to push towards Adachi will often find themselves speared by the move if they approach him carelessly. This is a fantastic move, but a slow one. Be careful with throwing it out carelessly, as it has slow startup and recovery. Cancelling into 2D can potentially cover you, but can be dashed through and punished. 2C is similarly great for tagging opponents who like to hang out at the top parts of the screen, as air unblockable and will drag them down towards the corner.

The star of the show has to be Adachi's j.C. Disjointed hitbox, massive area of effect, good recovery, great damage- this normal does it all. Abusing it in neutral is practically an Adachi player's right of passage. While it does have the usual weaknesses of an aerial Persona move (beaten by anti-airs and supers with invuln, risks Persona Break), it's simply so strong that it's hard not to use it. If your opponent has no good answers to this move, j.C is your best friend and lifelong companion from henceforth.

5C
2C
P4AU Adachi j.C.png

j.C. God normal.

Important Specials

Meter Use

Neutral

Pokes

Persona Displacement

Approaching the Opponent

Defense

Persona Broken

Having your persona broken as Adachi is VERY bad. First, any buffs received from Heat Riser and Magatsu Mandala are erased, and would have to be re-applied. Second, your stubby normals will leave you EXTREMELY vulnerable to characters with good normals and any zoning capacity. While severely disadvantaged, all hope is not lost. How do you survive long enough to get Izanagi back and try to mount a comeback? Consider the following options:

RUN!!

Without Izanagi, Adachi is outmatched by many characters in reach.

Adachi's only meterless reversal is his DP, which also converts 950 HP into blue health. Getting your DP baited can kill you. Be mindful of staggers with A normals, and be aware of your opponent's jump cancellable moves.

Pressure

Basic Pressure Structure

Reset Points

Tick Throw Setups

Tips and Tricks

Safely Applying Magatsu Mandala

Adachi's 5C is not limited to his position, but Magatsu Izanagi's. This means that if your opponent blocks your 2D you can inmediatly 5C and you'll stab them fullscreen.

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 ==General Strategies==
 ===The Rundown===
+Adachi is an offensive type of character that wants to push his opponents to the corner and run a powerful pressure game against them until they either make a mistake or respect him long enough to get command grabbed. Despite this, his actual mixup game is rather weak, and sometimes it can be hard to open people up without the right read. Adachi's mixup is done extremely close to the opponent, putting yourself to DP range. This is very important when dealing with characters such as Akihiko, who has no reason not to mash DP every time you get close to him while trying to throw, taking your momentum and putting you in a pretty bad spot.
+However, his strings have pretty few gaps if he decides to stay safe, so he only needs to take the risk when he feels like it and can stay away from reversal range most of the time. Knowing when to give your opponent breathing room and when not to is very important, because, as said before, he doesn't have any way of dealing safely with DP's aside from callouts and some very specific strings.
+Adachi's main strengths are his incredible Persona normals, his ability to convert pretty much anything into high damage if he has meter for it, and his very useful installs in Heat Riser and Magatsu Mandala. Adachi's main weaknesses are his reliance on Persona normals, his heavy reliance on meter to be a threat, and his lackluster defensive options.
 ===Important Normals===
-===Important Specials===
+Adachi's Persona normals are the star of the show here. They have massive reach, great properties, and help establish Adachi in neutral. There's no shame on relying on them at all levels of play, though their strength doesn't mean they are flawless.
-===Meter Use===
-Adachi is an offensive type of character that wants to rush down most other characters until they either make a mistake or respect him long enough to get grabbed.
-Despite this, his actual mixup game is rather weak, and sometimes it can be hard to open people up without the right read. Adachi's mixup is done extremely close to the opponent, putting yourself to DP range.
+On the ground, Adachi controls space in front of him with {{clr|3|5C}}, a huge disjointed normal with Persona invulnerability, making it great for poking against characters who like to throw out their Persona for space control. Even then, opponents who like to push towards Adachi will often find themselves speared by the move if they approach him carelessly. This is a fantastic move, but a slow one. Be careful with throwing it out carelessly, as it has slow startup and recovery. Cancelling into {{clr|4|2D}} can potentially cover you, but can be dashed through and punished. {{clr|3|2C}} is similarly great for tagging opponents who like to hang out at the top parts of the screen, as air unblockable and will drag them down towards the corner.
-This is very important when dealing with characters such as Akihiko, who has no reason not to mash DP every time you get close to him while trying to throw, taking your momentum and putting you in a pretty bad spot.
+The star of the show has to be Adachi's {{clr|3|j.C}}. Disjointed hitbox, massive area of effect, good recovery, great damage- this normal does it all. Abusing it in neutral is practically an Adachi player's right of passage. While it does have the usual weaknesses of an aerial Persona move (beaten by anti-airs and supers with invuln, risks Persona Break), it's simply so strong that it's hard not to use it. If your opponent has no good answers to this move, {{clr|3|j.C}} is your best friend and lifelong companion from henceforth.
-However, His strings have pretty few gaps if he decides to stay safe, so he only needs to take the risk when he feels like it and will stay away from mashing range most of the time. Knowing when to give your opponent breathing room and when not to is very important, because, as said before, he doesn't have any way of dealing safely with DP's aside from callouts and some very specific strings.
+<gallery widths="360px" heights="180px" mode="nolines">
+P4AU Adachi 5C.png| {{clr|3|5C}}
+P4AU Adachi 2C.png| {{clr|3|2C}}
+P4AU Adachi j.C.png| {{clr|3|j.C}}. God normal.
+</gallery>
+===Important Specials===
+===Meter Use===
-His main strengths are his persona normals, mainly J.C, J2.D and 5C. All of them have good range, are relatively safe and just overwhelm the opponent in most matchups.
 ==Neutral==
+===Pokes===
+===Persona Displacement===
+===Approaching the Opponent===
 ==Defense==
-'''Persona Broken'''
+===Persona Broken===
-Having your persona broken as Adachi is VERY bad. First, any buffs received from Heat Riser and Magatsu Mandala are erased, and would have to be re-applied. Second, your stubby normals will leave you EXTREMELY vulnerable to characters with good normals and any zoning capacity.
+Having your persona broken as Adachi is VERY bad. First, any buffs received from Heat Riser and Magatsu Mandala are erased, and would have to be re-applied. Second, your stubby normals will leave you EXTREMELY vulnerable to characters with good normals and any zoning capacity. While severely disadvantaged, all hope is not lost. How do you survive long enough to get Izanagi back and try to mount a comeback? Consider the following options:
-While severely disadvantaged, all hope is not lost. How do you survive long enough to get Izanagi back and try to mount a comeback? Consider the following options:
+'''RUN!!'''
-RUN!!!
+Without Izanagi, Adachi is outmatched by many characters in reach.
-Without Izanagi, Adachi is outmatched by many characters in reach. Avoid getting touched if possible! You will get touched so how can you minimize the damage potential of your opponent?
 Adachi's only meterless reversal is his DP, which also converts 950 HP into blue health. Getting your DP baited can kill you. Be mindful of staggers with A normals, and be aware of your opponent's jump cancellable moves.
 ==Pressure==
+===Basic Pressure Structure===
+===Reset Points===
+===Tick Throw Setups===
 ==Tips and Tricks==
+===Safely Applying Magatsu Mandala===
 Adachi's 5C is not limited to his position, but Magatsu Izanagi's. This means that if your opponent blocks your 2D you can inmediatly 5C and you'll stab them fullscreen.