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Ramlethal Valentine



Advantage : Anji generally doesn't really have low-commitment options to respond to ram's options in neutral, and his offense and defense aren't particularly scary for her to deal with. While he does do an obscene amount of damage off the right hits, and while he can call her out in neutral, ram generally has the upper hand. As ram, you might have to rely on faster normals to avoid his spin, but 2K is an amazing normal, and your P normals also have really good reward on hit thanks to 214P giving you a hard knockdown.


Advantage : Thanks to her high movement speed and large buttons, ram is generally difficult to zone. Axl just doesn't get as much leeway in neutral because the range she can start threatening him is much larger than most other characters. Though 2K helps him somewhat defend against ram's stuff, he's still going to struggle against a competent ram.


Even : Chipp's speed allows him to maneuver around Ram's big scary moves in neutral, keeping her "honest" to a certain extent. On top of that, his fast normals and DP can give ram some trouble even when she does get him to block, and Chipp himself can have some really scary mixups in the right situations. Overall much harder than your usual ram matchup, but not unwinnable by any means. Thanks Daisuke.


Advantage : Faust zones. Ram doesn't get zoned. Here too, her speed and range just make it very difficult for faust to ever get the space he wants to set up for items. He also really doesn't do enough damage to punish ram when he does actually win neutral. Painful matchup for him.

Despite all this, there is something Faust can do on defense, to deal with ram pressure : he can crawl under 236H on reaction. Krackatoa breaks down this tech here :


Matchup Rating

Rating: 5.5 : 4.5, Slightly Ram Favoured

Ram Advantages
  • Bigger Normals (Swords equipped)
  • Better overall space control
  • Oppressive Corner Okizeme and pressure
Ram Disadvantages
  • Struggles to prevent screen control against Gio midscreen when either of her swords are gone
  • Without meter, Ram struggles to deal with Gio corner pressure
  • Ram's fastest button is 5 Frames whereas Gio's is 4 frames
Giovanna Advantages
  • Has better Ground movement
  • Strong strike-throw game
  • Gio is short and stands under S sword throw (236S) and can run under it
  • 623S (Sol Nascente) is a great anti-air and is good at stuffing Ram's 214K (Sildo Detruo) and can lead to big damage
Giovanna Disadvantages
  • Gio has small poke options compared to Ram
  • Gio struggles on defense against ram corner pressure without meter
  • Gio has a hard time challenging ram from Full&Midscreen
  • Gio does not have a meterless reversal to escape corner pressure
  • Gio has extended hurtboxes on most of her normals

General tips for Ram vs Gio

  • Pre-emptively filling space to stop dashes is something Ram will have to do quite frequently
  • Saving your swords in neutral will make it easier for Ram to catch Gio's movement
  • Ram should try to not whiff her long range normals as it makes it easier for Gio to close the gap
  • Learn to 6P Gio's 236K (Trovão) and 214S (Sol Ponte), as both moves are plus on block and will allow her to continue her pressure if you don't interrupt them.
  • Try to whiff you big normals as they giver her enough time to get in


Advantage : Ram plays in about the same ranges and spaces Ky plays, but she does it better. Ram's f.S is faster, larger than his, and disjointed to boot, and her 5H more or less outranges all his normals, and with even more disjoints. To challenge these normals, Ky pretty much has to commit to 236K or 6P, and though these aren't bad moves by any means, they are still fairly risky especially without meter, and ram herself has strong options to beat those, such as 2S or 2K. As for pressure, Ky's DP, though it exists, is not amazing, and not particularly difficult for Ram to deal with, and Ky's pressure is not too scary, especially if Ram has meter.


Slight Advantage : Though Ram has really good, rewarding buttons, good lows, good antiairs, and strong reward all around, with pressure that can be very difficult to beat for I-No, Ram can't cover hoverdash j.S and 236S/236H at the same time, meaning I-No still has a good chance to simply guess right and get in. And once she's in, she can mix.


Matchup Rating

Rating: 6.5 : 3.5, Heavily Ram Favoured

Ram Advantages
  • Oppressive Corner Pressure
  • Long Range Normals
  • Good corner Carry
Ram Disadvantages
  • No meterless reversal
  • Weak without swords equipped
Jack-O Advantages
  • Strong Corner Pressure with minions
  • Decent zoning game with minion meter
  • High chip damage with Offensive Minion super
  • Good Mixup potential with minion(s) summoned
Jack-O Disadvantages
  • Low defense and guts
  • Weak defensive options
  • Reliant on minions and minion meter for screen
  • Shorter range normals compared to Ram (except her 6H)

General tips for Ram vs Jack-O

  • The Ram player should not give the Jack-O space to summon minions with f.S, j.S, 5H and both sword throws(236S/H)
  • Pay attention to Jack-O's minion Gauge, it limits what she can do
  • Ram can always special cancel or gatling after clearing a minion
  • Ram's Best minion clear options
  1. Close range - 5P, 5K,6P
  2. Mid-long range - f.S, j.S, 5H
  • Don't let the Jack-O player throw a minion behind you, you can't clear it if it is, run or jump at her after
  • Ram can always use her reversal super (236236S) between Jack-O's 2D and 236K
  • When FDing Jack-O, FD her normals, not her minions to space her out
  • If the Jack-O player is using j.D a lot, S sword throw (236S) can snipe her out and j.214S.
  • Ram easily out ranges Jack-O, push her to the corner and kill her, she can't easily escape.


5.5:4.5, you out neutral him pretty heavily but it's hell if he gets BT
  • Your f.S is 1 frame faster then Leo's, and your 5H is 3 frames faster, giving you almost complete control of neutral when on the ground. By that logic Leo's will tend to jump to avoid having to lose said neutral or may start to shoot projectiles from range; be aware of the game plan they go with.
  • Leo's Kaltes Gestöber Zweit(The cross up) can usually be thrown during a block string, there is however 1 frame where you will throw in the wrong direction, so make sure to not mistime the throw.


Advantage : May plays neutral thanks to her amazing buttons that let her bully a lot of character, but Ram simply has better buttons for that. On top of that, Ram has a much easier time dealing with dolphin RPS, meaning May has to work harder to actually get her hits.


5.5:4.5, Millia explodes but she's too fast for f.S


5:5, almost a first hit wins situation
  • Nago starts to out range even your normals once he starts getting into higher blood levels. They are still quite awful on whiff however, and proper baiting of moves like nagos 2H will make him wide open if he dosent have meter to make himself safe.
  • Nago's 6P cleanly beats Ram's f.5S from various distances, use 2S to circumvent this.
  • 214H will very quickly become the bane of your existence. You can snuff it with pre-emptive pokes but blocking it or (heaven forbid) getting counterhit by it is very bad. Your 5P is smaller than his and 2P is prone to losing.


5.5:4.5, At max range, Pot can play at the mid range effectively due to his big buttons like f.S and 5h. Corner pressure is especially effective because of his poor mobility and lack of forward/air dashes to get out of sword pressure.


Matchup Rating: 5:5 Even

Basic Mirror Match counterplay

  • The Ram with more swords equipped in neutral is favoured
  • Ram can easily challenge her own neutral
  • Ram struggles to deal with her own corner pressure without meter
  • This is a very momentum based matchup, first to break the wall usually wins
  • Ram has access to a few safe jumps making her Mortobato super easier to bait
  • Ram can always use her Mortobato super between rekka (214P) 1st, 2nd and 3rd hits
  • Ram can easily punish her 214K with 5P, 6P, 5K,and airthrow

Mirror Match Midrange R.P.S

f.S>2.S>6P>f.S and so on...

  • Jumping in Neutral can heavily change the R.P.S (Rock, Paper, Scissors)
  • Delaying and slightly changing your buttons and timing can throw off the other ram and can lead to whiff punishes.
  • If either ram whiffs 5H, it can be punished with 214H
  • f.S checks itself and she has a hard time dealing with her own pressure


5.5:4.5, you out neutral him but he heavily out damages you
  • Night Raid Vortex can be annoying for Ram to deal with, because of its low profile qualities. Ram gets strong punishes on both block and startup due to its generally risky nature, being -17 on block.
  • S Volcanic Viper is -22 on block, allowing for violent punishes.
  • 6S > Gunflame can be punished on reaction with a forward airdash.


Heavy Advantage
Ram Advantages
  • Amazing corner carry that can decide rounds off of one hit.
  • Large disjoints that can make it hard for Zato to contest her.
  • A very easy to throw out 6P that can cancel into rekka to start her bullshit.
Ram Disadvantages
  • Without meter she can struggle to get out of Zato's offense due to her lacking defensive options.
  • Zato can reflect Ram's sword if the player isn't being mindful of how they're using it.
  • Zato dislikes women.
Zato Advantages
  • Zato can mixup his air movement with flight, calling out bad anti airs.
  • Strong mix game! (Like every other MU when he gets someone to block)
  • His combos sure do hurt a lot in this very high damage game.
Zato Disadvantages
  • Has shit health so when Ram touches him, he's really gonna feel it.
  • No reversal so when Ram gets going, he is fully at her mercy.
  • Has to rely on YRC as his only consistent way to get Ram off of him.

General tips for Ram vs Zato

  • Ram feasts on Zato once she gets in but this also goes both ways. Make sure you keep Zato at bay with your strong pokes and go for the balls after you take out Edward.
  • 236S has a use in this matchup. It can clip him which puts him into a stagger state, allowing Ram to get in. It's risky but can work.
  • Due to Zato's unconventional aerial movement, you'll need to do 6P on reaction rather than expectation.
  • You can hit Edward with Motorboat to extend it's active frames which can catch unsuspecting Zato's by surprise when they try to get in after seeing the effect fade. Do not rely on this. This is moreso a quirk of the matchup than something you should actually try applying.
  • Be ready to jump! Zato players like to sneak in his command throw but learn to recognize the situations they do it and be ready to shit on him for 90%.


Ramlethal Valentine