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* {{clr|5|2D}} is the most favorable button to use vs Nagoriyuki's round start options. It will cover all of his normals and specials except for 5k. It will also lose to him walking back in order to set up a whiff punish. Ky can convert a counter hit {{clr|5|2D}} into a wall break combo making this is also a high return option. Using {{clr|3|f.S}} will allow Ky to cover Nagoriyuki's 5k. | * {{clr|5|2D}} is the most favorable button to use vs Nagoriyuki's round start options. It will cover all of his normals and specials except for 5k. It will also lose to him walking back in order to set up a whiff punish. Ky can convert a counter hit {{clr|5|2D}} into a wall break combo making this is also a high return option. Using {{clr|3|f.S}} will allow Ky to cover Nagoriyuki's 5k. | ||
* Although the above is true, the best approach to round start is most likely to avoid confrontation. Walking backwards, IAD back, or jumping back all carry substantially less risk then putting a normal out at round start as the wrong choice will lead into 50% damage, being wall broken, and Nagoriyuki having positive bonus. Thus being conservative in the approach to round start, unless you have a good read or good reason, is a strong way to start the round. | * Although the above is true, the best approach to round start is most likely to avoid confrontation. Walking backwards, IAD back, or jumping back all carry substantially less risk then putting a normal out at round start as the wrong choice will lead into 50% damage, being wall broken, and Nagoriyuki having positive bonus. Thus being conservative in the approach to round start, unless you have a good read or good reason, is a strong way to start the round. | ||
====Neutral==== | |||
*The matchup revolves around being more active at low blood with movement and fireballs. If he is playing a bit more passive or whiffing H normals you can try to move in and use longer range normals to fight him or take space. Fireball use needs to be sparing. You want to use enough to keep Nago thinking about jumping / using clone but not so much that you are easily read and he lands a solid clone -> fukyo to get in on you. Ideally you play coy enough in order to force him to spend blood in an attempt to get in. Once at high blood he loses access to clone and fukyo. Without these tool he is heavily abusable by Stun Edge and Charged Stun Edge. Use both of your projectile tools to get him jumping and punish bad jumps, or use CSE in order to force your way ontop of him. When approaching behind CSE be wary of 5H as at high blood it can disjoint through CSE and clip you. | |||
* Just beyond Nago 5H range is a solid range to be at as this lets you block 214H without being in command grab range and also lets you play around his whiffed 5H/2H. If Nago whiffs 2H or 6H anywhere near this range, dash stun dipper to punish him. Consistently punishing whiffed heavy recovery H normals with dipper or dash fS is very important - any opening to get on top of Nago safely has to be taken. | |||
* Nago {{clr|3|2S}} is a god normal and very difficult to work around. It'll be the main tool used to keep you from approaching freely on the ground after you make him consider not relying on H normals as heavily. Stun edge can be a way to keep him from pressing {{clr|3|2S}} freely, but is risky. If Nago is spamming {{clr|3|2S}} in your face you can also try and {{clr|5|2D}} to whiff punish it - this will require you being ready for the {{clr|3|2s}}. | |||
* Raw forward fukyo use has to be checked on reaction fairly consistently. 5p/2p into a combo is the easiest way to do this. | |||
====Defense==== | |||
* Bursting Nago after he has spent a lot of blood is strong. For example: if he’s done a combo where he used blood to get in and then did his DP, burst him immediately after the DP and he’ll now be at high blood and give you better control of neutral. | |||
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- Keep On Rockin' is a great resource to find match videos of specific matchups: https://strive.keeponrock.in/#/?p1chars=ky
- Character Strategy pages generally also have a Counter Strategy section with basic universal counterplay.
Anji
- Ky can easily punish NagihaGuardLowStartup15 (28 with early cancel)Recovery20Advantage-7 with Stun Dipper RRC
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Axl
- Round start buttons RPS should you choose to not block revolves around Ky 6P (beats f.SGuardAllStartup10Recovery19Advantage-8), f.S (beats 2DGuardLowStartup10Recovery17Advantage-9), and Foudre Arc (beats jump back j.SGuardHighStartup14Recovery18Advantage-, RainwaterGuardAllStartup24Recovery21Advantage+3, and backdash.
- Ky's usually-strong round start 2S option loses or trades to Axl f.S/2D.
- It is important to establish that 2HGuardLowStartup11Recovery26Advantage-18 [-8] is not free to use at mid-range. Instant Air Dashing over blocked 2H beats all of Axl's options other than 2H SnailGuardAllStartup14Recovery29Advantage-24 and 2H into nothing. Snail is punishable with either 66BRC c.S/6H or Stun Dipper when farther out.
- Should Axl whiff Spinning Chain StrikeGuardLowStartup7Recovery19Advantage-6, Foudre Arc will fly right over its low hitbox for a Counter Hit punish.
- Regular anti-airs are not recommended against jump back j.HGuardHighStartup12Recovery25Advantage+3 (IAD) in the corner. Instead, block it and punish it as Axl falls or Vapor Thrust it on reaction if possible.
- To punish superGuardAllStartup11+1Recovery26Advantage-2, block the first hit, then jump forward > falling j.H for a jump-in punish.
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Baiken
- Ky's Charged Stun Edge Okizeme can circumvent Baiken's parryGuard-Startup1Recovery32Advantage-, but be wary of being too predictable with 2P and 2K/5K frametraps.
- Be wary of throwing projectiles against a Baiken with 50 Meter as KenjyuGuardAll (Guard Crush)Startup8+3RecoveryTotal 47Advantage+5 will beat it fullscreen.
- Ky can force Baiken to respect Ky via using Stun Dipper to low profile KabariGuardAllStartup18Recovery19Advantage-3 blockstrings and H Vapor Thrust certain blockstrings ending in Tatami (which leave a gap between the move and tatami)
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Chipp
Faust
- Faust can practically nullify Ky's Charged Stun Edge okizeme by using Crawl
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Giovanna
- Giovanna's neutral presence matches Ky's while having more consistent rewards and better pressure
- Notably, her airdash descends very quickly, allowing her to more easily (relative to a lot of other characters) punish Stun Edge with an IAD An air dash performed from a standing position as quickly and as low to the ground as possible from a jump. Done by inputting 956 754, and depending on the game, using a dash macro right after a jump. on reaction.
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Goldlewis
- Ky can effectively zone Goldlewis with Stun Edge and his long normals (provided Goldlewis does not have level 3 security for SkyfishGuardAllStartup25Recovery75~134 TotalAdvantage-13)
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Happy Chaos
I-No
- Ky can force I-No to take greater risks than usual in neutral with proper use of 6H and 2H, forcing varied approach as they can catch both IAD An air dash performed from a standing position as quickly and as low to the ground as possible from a jump. Done by inputting 956 754, and depending on the game, using a dash macro right after a jump. and StrokeGuardLowStartup28Recovery16Advantage-2) attempts.
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Round Start
- 2S is a generally strong option. It will beat I-no's common normals and force her into trying to whiff punish by walking back or into using dives. Forward jump j.K calls out the dive. Most of these options convert into oki off successful hits, leading to a good round start for Ky.
Jack-O'
Ky (mirror)
Leo
May
- Ky can control neutral on the ground fairly well with Stun Edge, 6P, f.S, and 6H, forcing May to approach from the air.
- Ky can consistently punish a blocked S DolphinGuardAllStartup7Recovery20 (24 OH)Advantage-3 with Stun Dipper RRC, forcing May to be wary of using it against a Ky with 50 meter
- Ky can have a hard time dealing with May's enormous damage output, making small mistakes very punishing.
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Millia
Nagoriyuki
- Nagoriyuki's massive disjointed attacks make it hard for Ky to contest or approach him in Neutral
- Nagoriyuki's explosive damage output can make it difficult for Ky to come back from making a small mistake
- Ky maintains advantage when Nagoriyuki has high blood. The threat of Blood Rage from continued special move use allows Ky to safely apply pressure from a distance with Stun Edge or to use Charged Stun Edge to safely approach and begin his strike/throw gameplan.
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Round Start
- 2D is the most favorable button to use vs Nagoriyuki's round start options. It will cover all of his normals and specials except for 5k. It will also lose to him walking back in order to set up a whiff punish. Ky can convert a counter hit 2D into a wall break combo making this is also a high return option. Using f.S will allow Ky to cover Nagoriyuki's 5k.
- Although the above is true, the best approach to round start is most likely to avoid confrontation. Walking backwards, IAD back, or jumping back all carry substantially less risk then putting a normal out at round start as the wrong choice will lead into 50% damage, being wall broken, and Nagoriyuki having positive bonus. Thus being conservative in the approach to round start, unless you have a good read or good reason, is a strong way to start the round.
Neutral
- The matchup revolves around being more active at low blood with movement and fireballs. If he is playing a bit more passive or whiffing H normals you can try to move in and use longer range normals to fight him or take space. Fireball use needs to be sparing. You want to use enough to keep Nago thinking about jumping / using clone but not so much that you are easily read and he lands a solid clone -> fukyo to get in on you. Ideally you play coy enough in order to force him to spend blood in an attempt to get in. Once at high blood he loses access to clone and fukyo. Without these tool he is heavily abusable by Stun Edge and Charged Stun Edge. Use both of your projectile tools to get him jumping and punish bad jumps, or use CSE in order to force your way ontop of him. When approaching behind CSE be wary of 5H as at high blood it can disjoint through CSE and clip you.
- Just beyond Nago 5H range is a solid range to be at as this lets you block 214H without being in command grab range and also lets you play around his whiffed 5H/2H. If Nago whiffs 2H or 6H anywhere near this range, dash stun dipper to punish him. Consistently punishing whiffed heavy recovery H normals with dipper or dash fS is very important - any opening to get on top of Nago safely has to be taken.
- Nago 2S is a god normal and very difficult to work around. It'll be the main tool used to keep you from approaching freely on the ground after you make him consider not relying on H normals as heavily. Stun edge can be a way to keep him from pressing 2S freely, but is risky. If Nago is spamming 2S in your face you can also try and 2D to whiff punish it - this will require you being ready for the 2s.
- Raw forward fukyo use has to be checked on reaction fairly consistently. 5p/2p into a combo is the easiest way to do this.
Defense
- Bursting Nago after he has spent a lot of blood is strong. For example: if he’s done a combo where he used blood to get in and then did his DP, burst him immediately after the DP and he’ll now be at high blood and give you better control of neutral.
Potemkin
Ramlethal
- Ram controls the neutral in this matchup with her gigantic disjointed ground and air normals that are hard to contest on top of having deadly corner pressure
- Running 6P or Stun Edge are some of the only ways for Ky to contest Ram's grounded normals as 6H can be slow enough to lose or trade unfavorably.
- Stun Dipper generally cannot low profile H Sword TossGuardAllStartup20RecoveryTotal 43Advantage+3 out of a blockstring unless Ram launches it from near tip range of f.S/5H
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Sol
- 5P/2P/6P are all fast enough to interrupt Sol f.SGuardAllStartup10Recovery13Advantage+2 > f.S, or Faultless Defense will push him out.
- Sol can infamously punish Dire Eclat on block more reliably than the rest of the cast via 6HGuardAllStartup9Recovery43Advantage-27, but spaced blockstrings ending in 5H/6H/Stun Edge are safe with their pushback.
- The most consistent anti-air against Bandit BringerGuardHighStartup30Recovery13Advantage-3 is H Vapor Thrust, as Sol can delay it to bait out 6P/2H.
- Punishes against 6SGuardAllStartup15Recovery20Advantage-9 > GunflameGuardAllStartup18RecoveryTotal 54Advantage-10, after 6S:
- Jump forward j.H > 2D
- Close to the corner, j.H 66 c.S > 6H wallbounce > 5K/c.S > 6H > Dire Eclat/Vapor Thrust
- At close range with 50% Tension, Ride The Lightning
- From far range with 50% Tension, IAD An air dash performed from a standing position as quickly and as low to the ground as possible from a jump. Done by inputting 956 754, and depending on the game, using a dash macro right after a jump. BRC j.H > c.S > 5H > Dire Eclat/Stun Dipper
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Round Start
- 5K is a relatively safe start that can be confirmed into 2D or Stun Dipper on hit, or block/6H on block or whiff. From there, 6P is a hard callout to f.SGuardAllStartup10Recovery13Advantage+2, and 2D has the greatest reward on a Counter Hit. Backdash > 6H also punishes 6HGuardAllStartup9Recovery43Advantage-27.
Testament
Zato-1
- Anji Mito [★]
- Asuka R♯ [★]
- Axl Low [★]
- Baiken [★]
- Bedman? [★]
- Bridget [★]
- Chipp Zanuff [★]
- Faust [★]
- Giovanna [★]
- Goldlewis [★]
- Happy Chaos [★]
- I-No [★]
- Jack-O' [★]
- Johnny [★]
- Ky Kiske [★]
- Leo Whitefang [★]
- May [★]
- Millia Rage [★]
- Nagoriyuki [★]
- Potemkin [★]
- Ramlethal [★]
- Sin Kiske [★]
- Sol Badguy [★]
- Testament [★]
- Zato-1 [★]
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