GGST/Ky Kiske

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Overview

Overview

Ky is a versatile character who possesses many moves with good speed and range. His varied move set makes him comfortable at any range, but he excels in mid-ranged neutral.

Ky uses his far-reaching f.S and 2S to check opponents at mid range, and complements them with his disjointed 5H and 6H. 5K and 2D are lows with good range and many active frames. Frustrated foes that approach him carelessly can be intercepted by his strong space control tools and anti-airs. He scores combos and hard knockdowns easily with Dire Eclat, even from his fastest buttons.

At longer ranges, Ky can use Stun Edge projectiles to cover his approach or to play keep-away. When the time is right, he can take more risks by using Stun Dipper to slide under pokes or projectiles or Foudre Arc to hop over lows. Ky's versatile defensive moves include his Vapor Thrust DPDragon Punch A move that has invulnerability during its startup, long recovery, and a rising motion., which can challenge pressure. Furthermore, Ky reliably scores Positive Bonus with Ride the Lightning, an Overdrive that is easily incorporated into combos and can wall break from tremendous distances.

He lacks command grabs and overheads besides the universal options, making his basic mix-ups unremarkable. His okizeme mix-ups however, are quite strong! After scoring a knockdown, Ky can safely set up okizeme using Charged Stun Edge or airdash FDC safe jumps. His plethora of options include high/low mix-ups, Cross-upAttacking your opponent after changing which horizontal side you are on, usually by jumping over them.s, throws and Meaty AttackHitting an opponent to cover the moment as they lose invincibility. The most common one is performing an attack early on okizeme to gain frame advantage and bait reversals.s. The possibilities are only limited by your own creativity. Unleash your true power!

With his diverse move set, Ky has a tool for every situation and can quickly switch between keeping the opponent away and turning on the offensive.
Lore:A serious man who dedicates himself completely to his work, the people, and his morals.

His love for justice and determination to help those less fortunate is reflected in all aspects of his life. On the other hand, this also means he can show rather extreme dislike for anything that disrupts the peace or breaks the rules. After taking his position as King, this enthusiasm shifted into a broader perspective, allowing him to see the world from a variety of viewpoints.

This isn't to say, however, that he can't still come off as naïve and emotional at times.
Playstyle
GGST Ky Kiske Icon.png Ky Kiske is an all-rounder with tools to compete both on the ground and in the air at most ranges, classified as a Balance type.
Pros Cons
  • Jack of All Trades: Ky's tools can handle all manners of offensive and defensive situations at various ranges. He has good gap-closing tools and decent close-range pressure. His excellent pokes make him great at mid-ranged keep-out. He also has several projectiles, good anti-airs and a meterless reversal.
  • Excellent Space Control: Ky's normals are great space control tools, both on the ground and in the air. Combining good movement with buttons like f.S, 6H, j.K and j.S can make him difficult to approach.
  • Strong Okizeme: Ky gets strong pressure and mix-ups from most knockdowns using FDC safe jumps and Charged Stun Edge.
  • Weak Enders: Ky lacks a good way to end blockstrings. Dire Eclat relies on pushback spacing to be safe on regular block, and Stun Edge has high recovery while being in Counter Hit state for its entire duration. This makes him vulnerable to being Instant Blocked and punished, which is more pronounced against characters such as GGST Ramlethal Valentine Icon.png Ramlethal and GGST Sol Badguy Icon.png Sol who have reliable ways to punish enders without the difficulty of IB, or characters that can Low ProfileWhen a character's hurtbox is entirely beneath an opponent's attack. This can be caused by crouching, certain moves, and being short. his safest ender in spaced Stun Edge.
  • Inconsistent Conversions: Ky has access to combo routes with good damage, but these routes are sometimes difficult to access or require specific conditions such as Counter Hit Dire Eclat in the corner.

Shock State

Ky's projectiles (except for j.D) and Dire Eclat special put the opponent into Shock State on contact. Hitting an opponent in Shock State with most of his specials removes the Shock State (or reapplies it) in exchange for bonus effects varying from more damage, more blockstun, and better hit effects, allowing for more damaging combos or stronger okizeme. Check the Strategy page for more details.

Normal Moves

StartupThe time before an attack is active including the first active frame. For example, an attack with 10F startup means the attack will do nothing for 9 frames, then hit the opponent on the 10th frame. frames
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ActiveThe active frames of an attack refers to the amount of time an attack can hit the opponent. Frames
InactiveFrames in the middle of multi-hit attacks which cannot hit the opponent, but are after the move has become active at least once. Frames
RecoveryThe recovery of an attack refers to the amount of time an attacker must wait before he may perform another action. Frames
Special RecoveryThe recovery of an attack refers to the amount of time an attacker must wait before he may perform another action.Recovery frames which happen under abnormal conditions, such as after landing. Frames

5P

5K

Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
30 Low 7 8 6 -2 none

  • Jump cancelable.

Excellent normal that can gatling into Ky's 2D for a double low sequence that leads to a knockdown and OkizemeFrom Japanese "起き攻め". Attacking an opponent about to wake up, usually with meaty attacks or mixups.. When using 5K on okizeme, you can time it to hit as a Meaty AttackHitting an opponent to cover the moment as they lose invincibility. The most common one is performing an attack early on okizeme to gain frame advantage and bait reversals. to significantly increase its frame advantage up to +5 on block for stronger pressure and combos. Due to its long active frames and low recovery, it can also be used preemptively to stuff many attacks in neutral, such as GGST May Icon.png May's horizontal dolphinsGGST May Mr. Dolphin Horizontal.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
7
Recovery:
11
Advantage:
-5
.

Gatling Options: 6P, 6K, 6H, 5D, 2D

c.S

Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
42 All 7 6 13 -2 none

  • Jump cancelable.
  • Ground bounces on air hit.

Often used to start pressure at close range or as a Meaty AttackHitting an opponent to cover the moment as they lose invincibility. The most common one is performing an attack early on okizeme to gain frame advantage and bait reversals. after a knockdown. Its speed, wide variety of gatling options, and mid Counter Hit slowdown also make it a go-to move for punishes. In pressure, it can be both delay canceled and jump canceled to create frame traps and bait defensive options (such as c.S > 2S). Since it's only slightly negative on block, you can condition the opponent with frame traps and then reset pressure by dashing up with another c.S or going for a throw.

c.S seems to deal slightly less Wall Damage when hits right the frame before an airborne opponent drop to the ground. This explains why some combo routes seemingly have random Wall Stick timing, but it rarely has any benefit to trigger on purpose.

Gatling Options: 6P, 6K, f.S, 2S, 5H, 2H, 6H, 5D, 2D

f.S

Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
34 All 12 6 13 -5 none

  • Does not extend its hurtbox until it becomes active, but has a lingering extended hurtbox during recovery.

One of Ky's best mid-ranged pokes alongside 2S, combining a great balance of speed, range, and safety. It's a bit slower than 2S, susceptible to being counter-poked by 6Ps, and can be avoided by Low ProfileWhen a character's hurtbox is entirely beneath an opponent's attack. This can be caused by crouching, certain moves, and being short. attacks, but it's also safer, has far more active frames, and may hit airborne opponents with its higher hitbox. Dashing before f.S carries enough momentum to give it comparable range to 2S. Often canceled into 5H and Stun Edge in pressure, and counter-poking with it to score Counter Hits provides a reliable combo into Stun Dipper.

Gatling Options: 5H, 2H

5H

Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
48 All 14 6 21 -8 none

  • Launches vertically on air hit.
  • Disjointed hitbox during the active frames, but a lingering 12f extended hurtbox during recovery.

A chunky swing that's slower than Ky's S normals, but has a bit more range. Sees lots of use to air juggle during combos, since it pops them up high enough to combo into a special or Overdrive. Though it is unsafe on block, it can be difficult to punish at max range and is commonly cancelled into Stun Edge when ending pressure. Since 5H deals a lot of hitstun, it is a reliable way to confirm into Ride The Lightning even on non-Counter Hit.

5D

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
Uncharged 45 High 20 4 25 -15 -
Charged 56 High 28 4 25 -10 -

Uncharged Dust
  • Uncharged Dust on hit is 0 or neutral frame advantage and causes float

Universal overhead attack that's pretty fast. Is a useful tool for Ky's combos as it will juggle the opponent boosting Ky's damage. Examples of this include [CH c.S > 5D] or [RRC > 665D]. Can be gatling from 5K, 2K, or c.S for an unsafe mixup that can be made safe on block or converted into a full combo on hit by using Roman Cancel.


Charged Dust
  • Charged Dust leads to soft knockdown (+36).
  • Holding any upwards direction during the hitstop frames of charged Dust will perform a Homing Jump:
    • Doing a Homing Jump will cause an Area Shift and put the opponent into a unique high damaging air combo state.
    • Pressing any attack twice in a row without jump/dash canceling will perform a unique Finishing Blow attack, causing a hard knockdown (+23).
    • Homing Jump combos can sometimes increase Tension Pulse enough to activate Positive Bonus.

Similar to uncharged Dust but is slow enough to be reacted to. On hit, it results in a very high damaging combo. Charged Dust is also useful for juggling during combos to add damage after a Roman Cancel.

6P

Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
34 All 9 5 17 -8 1-3f Upper Body
4-13f Above Knees

  • Invulnerable above the knees from the startup until the beginning of recovery.
  • Launches away on air hit, but leaves standing on ground hit.
  • Hard knockdown on air Counter Hit.

Ky's main anti-air and an all-around a great normal due to its upper body invulnerability. Though it doesn't combo into much besides Dire Eclat on non-Counter Hit, it's great for ensuring that whatever is coming at you from the air has the best possible chance of being beaten. Against grounded opponents, it's invaluable for countering pokes that Ky otherwise finds hard to contest, like GGST Ramlethal Valentine Icon.png Ramlethal's f.SGGST Ramlethal Valentine fS.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
11
Recovery:
21
Advantage:
-10 [-13]
. When used in combos, 6P is a important cancel from 5P/2P mash into Dire Eclat's hard knockdown.

6K

6H

Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
52 All 15 4 20 -7 none

  • Launches opponent away on hit.
  • Wall bounces on hit in the corner.
  • Combos from 5K/2K on crouching opponents.
  • Disjointed hitbox during the active frames, but a lingering 13f extended hurtbox during recovery.

A huge attack that leads to great reward and corner carry on Counter Hit when canceled into Foudre Arc. Great as a haymaker in neutral or for whiff punishing moves, though be careful of the long startup and recovery. Because it hits so low to the ground, it will beat lots of 6Ps and Low ProfileWhen a character's hurtbox is entirely beneath an opponent's attack. This can be caused by crouching, certain moves, and being short. attacks like GGST Sol Badguy Icon.png Sol's Night Raid Vortex. Useful in pressure as an auto-timed frame trap from 5K and a manually-timed one from c.S especially since Ky takes a step forward during the attack, which makes it easier to keep the pressure on. Also integral in corner combos due to its wallbounce property (6H > 214K, 6H > 214S, etc.)

2P

2K

2S

2H

2D

j.P

j.K

j.S

Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
32 High 7 3 21 - none

  • Air Dash cancelable
  • Larger jump-in hitbox than the animation suggests.

When used air-to-air, j.S has more range than j.K, but j.K is generally safer to use in air-to-air situations due to j.S' higher recovery. With 50% Tension, j.S becomes a more threatening poke, as a hit can be confirmed into Ride the Lightning to deal great damage and break the wall even from midscreen due to the long carrying distance of RTL.

j.S also has use in blockstrings due to its j.D gatling and air dash cancel. j.S > 66 > j.S can open up opponents mashing throw or expecting Ky to land with a low, but the airdash leaves a large gap which can be punished. Go for it when the opponent is conditioned to block.

Gatling Options: j.H, j.D

j.H

j.D

Universal Mechanics

Ground Throw

6D or 4D

Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
80 Ground Throw (90000) 2 3 38 - none

  • Can throw the opponent either forward or backwards.
  • 75% forced proration before all damage is dealt, 50% forced proration after all damage is dealt.

A critical part of Ky's pressure, granting a hard knockdown on hit and allowing him to start his strong OkizemeFrom Japanese "起き攻め". Attacking an opponent about to wake up, usually with meaty attacks or mixups. game. You're occasionally able to use it defensively due to its fast startup, but it's primarily used to open up opponents that have been conditioned into blocking in order to entice them to mash into frame traps.

The hard knockdown is long enough to safely use Charged Stun Edge in almost all situations, allowing a mixup and further pressure. If the opponent wasn't thrown into a corner, they have time to jump over an instant CSE. Performing a short dash before CSE allows the projectile to catch jump-outs. It's recommended to use the Dash Button or input 2366H to prevent an accidental Vapor Thrust from coming out. It's also a common choice to go directly into a safe jump/empty jump low mix-up using IAD j.H/2K.

You can also follow up a ground throw at any distance with 6H to OTG the opponent, which can slightly increase the meterless damage. Midscreen, this also allows cancelling the 6H into a meaty 236S. In the corner, this allows following up the OTG 6H with another meaty 6H that will frame trap and hit any non-reversal wakeup option that is not blocking (jump, backdash, wakeup button) slower than 4 frames. Against 3 frame moves, the 6H will trade.

Air Throw

j.6D or j.4D

Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
80 Air Throw 2 3 Until L+10 - none

  • Can throw the opponent either forward or backwards.
  • Hard knockdown on hit.
  • 75% forced proration before all damage is dealt, 50% forced proration after all damage is dealt.

A powerful, but risky tool for countering air approaches and the startup of some attacks. Use it carefully along with 6P, 2H and Vapor Thrust to discourage jumping. Keeping the opponent on the ground limits their options, and allows you to take advantage of Ky's strong grounded normals.

Special Moves

Stun Edge

236S

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
236S 30 [33] All 13 Until Hit Total 46 -15 none
DI 236S 30×2 All 13 Until Hit Total 46 -11 none

  • Applies Shock State to the opponent on contact
  • [] values refer to hitting an opponent already in Shock State
  • Counter hit state for the entire duration

A basic projectile. 236S is useful against opponents that like to aggressively and preemptively use grounded normals, as you can stand just outside their range and fire it off to deal damage and build some Tension. Hitting an opponent with SE may convince them to stop attacking in order to react to it, opening them up for your offensive approach. It can also be used as a blockstring ender after the pushback of 5H and 6H in pressure, as long as that pushback puts Ky outside of the range of the opponent's longest buttons.

Ky is in Counter Hit state for the move's entire duration, the recovery is lengthy, and the projectile can be both Low ProfileWhen a character's hurtbox is entirely beneath an opponent's attack. This can be caused by crouching, certain moves, and being short.d and Instant Air Dashed over. For these reasons, you should carefully consider when you throw it out. It's much safer to use in matchups where the opponent has poor mobility such as GGST Potemkin Icon.png Potemkin, or matchups where the opponent has no fast projectile of their own such as GGST Goldlewis Dickinson Icon.png Goldlewis Dickinson.

In Dragon Install, SE hits twice and is a bit safer on contact. You can use it much like you use it normally, only it will now beat other single-hitting projectiles and deals much more chip damage on block, forcing opponents to spend Tension on Faultless Defense or avoid the projectile entirely.

Charged Stun Edge

236H

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
236H 20×3 [22×3] All 39 Until Hit Total 62 +22 [+25] none
DI 236H 17×5 All 39 Until Hit Total 62 +45 none

  • Applies Shock State to the opponent on contact
  • [] values refer to hitting an opponent already in Shock State

A large, multi-hitting projectile that is very advantageous on contact, allowing Ky to attempt further pressure and mixups. When landing a 2D at close range, delay CSE so that the projectile doesn't whiff past an opponent's wakeup.

In Dragon Install, CSE hits five times and is even more plus on block, but is mostly enhanced indirectly by Stun Dipper's hard knockdown in DI, allowing CSE to be used safely afterwards where normally it could not.

Aerial Stun Edge

j.236S/H

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
j.236S 30 [33] All 21 Until Hit Until Landing+14 - none
DI j.236S 30×2 All 21 Until Hit Until Landing+14 - none
j.236H 30 [33] All 21 Until Hit Until Landing+14 - none
DI j.236H 30×2 All 21 Until Hit Until Landing+14 - none

  • Applies Shock State to the opponent on contact.
  • [] values refer to hitting an opponent already in Shock State.

An air projectile used to keep opponents grounded or as an anti anti-air callout. TKing the H version at fullscreen makes it cover a very good angle that can cover both the ground and the air, and is especially useful against other projectiles in certain matchups e.g. GGST Nagoriyuki Icon.png Nagoriyuki's ZarameyukiGGST Nagoriyuki Zarameyuki1.pngGuard:
Mid
Startup:
18
Recovery:
Total 39
Advantage:
+5
and GGST Leo Whitefang Icon.png Leo's H Gravierte WürdeGGST Leo Whitefang Graviert Wurde.pngGuard:
All
Startup:
23
Recovery:
Total 73F
Advantage:
+11
. However, Ky has no air action after firing the projectile and has extra landing recovery, making it very unsafe on whiff without a Purple Roman Cancel if an opponent evades it (such as by running underneath the H version).

In Dragon Install, it hits twice and deals much more chip damage on block, forcing opponents to spend Tension on Faultless Defense or avoid the projectile entirely.

Stun Dipper

236K

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
236K 20×2 [20, 22] Low, All 5 12(7)3 26 -15 [-10] 1-4f Upper Body
5-16f Above Knees
DI 236K 20, 26×2 Low, All 5 12(7)3 26 -10 1-4f Upper Body
5-16f Above Knees

  • The second hit removes Shock State from the opponent on contact.
  • [] values refer to hitting an opponent in Shock State.

A very fast sliding attack that can Low ProfileWhen a character's hurtbox is entirely beneath an opponent's attack. This can be caused by crouching, certain moves, and being short. under many other attacks, knocking down on hit. Despite the short knockdown time, Ky remains close enough to the opponent to perform a meaty 5K afterwards to continue pressure. Due to the fixed time gap between the kick attack and the slash attack, the move will not properly combo when performed too close or too far from the opponent. Cancelling into it from Mid or higher Counter Hits will make it combo at any range, even point blank.

With at least 50% Tension available, Roman Cancel makes Stun Dipper a huge threat. The 1st hit becomes a 5 frame low attack that can convert into a full combo at a distance where it would normally not combo, the 2nd hit leads into an extended combo for more damage, and either hit can be Roman Cancelled on block to be made safe while resetting Ky's pressure or even stealing his turn back while under an opponent's pressure.

In Dragon Install, the slash gains an extra hit for more damage and causes a hard knockdown instead of a normal one, leaving Ky at +41. This lets you use Charged Stun Edge safely where you normally could not, or simply gain more options to mixup with afterwards off the extended knockdown.

Foudre Arc

214K

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
214K 40 [44] All 24 11 8 -1~+6 [+4~+11] 8-11f Foot
12-28f Below Waist
DI 214K 16, 24×2 All 24 3,2,6 8 +6~+11 8-11f Foot
12-28f Below Waist

  • Removes Shock State from the opponent on contact
  • [] values refer to hitting an opponent in Shock State
  • Hits standing opponents on frame 27, crouching opponents on frame 29
  • On-Block value ranges account for being more plus on block when striking later in its active frames (e.g. as a Meaty AttackHitting an opponent to cover the moment as they lose invincibility. The most common one is performing an attack early on okizeme to gain frame advantage and bait reversals.)
  • Forces opponent into crouching state on ground hit
  • Will pass over crouching opponents if performed too close to them

A flying kick with a high arc used to close distance, beat jump outs, and crush Low ProfileWhen a character's hurtbox is entirely beneath an opponent's attack. This can be caused by crouching, certain moves, and being short. attacks. Despite its slow startup, it covers a large distance quickly and has low recovery, so you can quickly approach the opponent. Dashing first causes the move to carry momentum, reaching nearly fullscreen. Foudre Arc shouldn't be used recklessly, as the long startup can be counter hit by most normals, you can't combo into anything on normal hit, and it's negative if blocked correctly. The situation on block can change depending on how late into the attack it hit the opponent, but in general you can assume that Ky is -1 on standing block, and +1 on crouching block. It's good for when you know the opponent wants to jump away since it will force them back to the ground with extra landing blockstun, leaving Ky at significant advantage. It can also be used to counter hit Low ProfileWhen a character's hurtbox is entirely beneath an opponent's attack. This can be caused by crouching, certain moves, and being short. attacks, which will enable combos.

The Shock State and Dragon Install versions are much better in general. You can use it to reset pressure, since it will be Ky's advantage on block whether it is blocked crouching or standing. On hit, you can combo into 2K or c.S for extra damage. Do keep in mind that Foudre Arc can still be interrupted during the startup in these cases, it's best to use it when you think the opponent is too scared to press anything and isn't going to react in time to counter it. In DI, Charged Stun Edge > FA is a gapless sequence that deals a large amount of chip damage, forcing opponents to choose between taking the damage or spending a large amount of Tension on Faultless Defense.

Vapor Thrust

623S/H

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
623S 48 [52] All 11 4 43 -33 1-14f Strike
DI 623S 30×2 All 11 4 43 -26 1-14f Strike
623H 60 [66] All 13 8 44 -38 1-16f Strike
DI 623H 25×3 All 13 6 39 -22 1-18f Strike

  • Removes Shock State from the opponent on contact.
  • [] values refer to hitting an opponent in Shock State.
  • Air Vapor Thrusts have a recovery of Until Landing+12f.
  • Cannot be Roman Canceled on whiff.
  • The H version is Ky's highest damage meterless wallbreaker.

An invincible reversal attack with a wide arc that reaches behind Ky's head, launching the opponent away. Poor when used on wakeup, since it's somewhat slow, vulnerable to throws, and easily whiffs on opponents doing low attacks. It is still quite useful as an anti-air that beats cross-ups, a risky gamble to escape pressure, and corner combo filler to add damage. The S version is slightly faster, while the H version launches Ky farther forward with more active frames, giving it more range. Which one you should use varies depending on the situation, but S is best for speed which is generally useful on wakeup, and H is best for damage and consistently beating an attack.

If it hits an opponent in Shock State, it deals more damage and pops them up high enough to combo afterwards with a grounded move, extending combos in the corner.

In Dragon Install, it launches the opponent at a sharper vertical angle which leaves them closer to Ky, and you can combo from the H version even midscreen with 5K or c.S. Since it becomes a multi-hit attack, it's better to wall break with a high damage normal like 6H or 5[D] instead of Vapor Thrust while in Dragon Install.

Dire Eclat

214S

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
214S 40 [44] All 14 3 25 -11 [-9] none
DI 214S 20×3 All 14 3 25 -9 none

  • Applies Shock State to the opponent on contact
  • [] values refer to hitting an opponent already in Shock State

One of Ky's main combo enders. It's also used in high-damage corner combos to apply Shock State mid-combo to allow Ky to follow up after H Vapor Thrust for more damage, or a wall breaker to apply Shock State before the reset to neutral. Fairly large pushback on both hit and block, but is minus enough to be unsafe in some matchups (e.g. GGST Ramlethal Valentine Icon.png Ramlethal) and universally if Instant Blocked. On hit, allows for a safe jump with dash IAD j.H or dash Foudre Arc afterwards.

In Dragon Install, it hits more times and the pushback on contact is even larger.

Overdrives

Ride The Lightning

632146H (Air OK)

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
632146H 21×4, 50 [22×4, 60] All 7+1 3×4(20)2 99 -82 1-10f All
DI 632146H 10×8, 30×3 All 7+1 2×8(20)2×3 99 -79 1-15f All
j.632146H 21×4, 50 [22×4, 60] All 7+1 3×4(20)2 99 - 1-10f All
DI j.632146H 10×8, 30×3 All 7+1 2×8(20)2×3 99 - 1-15f All

  • [] damage values refer to hitting an opponent in Shock State.
  • Hitting an opponent in the corner with the final hit causes a Wall Break and leaves Ky +36 afterwards.

A powerful attack with invincible startup and extremely long recovery. Its quick startup and lengthy forward momentum makes it adaptable as an ender in many situations, where it can wall break from quite a distance from the corner. Since a wall break with an Overdrive deals high damage, locks the opponent out of Burst, and grants a hard knockdown, early confirms into Ride the Lightning are a great option. You could think of RTL as a free wall break once you reach 50% Tension, as the meter you spend will quickly be replenished by the resulting Positive Bonus.

The gap between the charging portion of the attack and the flourish at the end can be punished with fast attacks, Overdrives, and throws. If you want to stay safe on block with a Roman Cancel, don't wait until the second half to do it.

In Dragon Install, RTL hits more times and also deals a huge amount of chip damage, but much of the damage is backloaded into the interruptible 2nd half of the attack, making the chip-out usage of it more of a knowledge check/gimmick. If you do want an air tight chip kill however, 236H > 66PRC (> 236H 1st hit) > 632146H is an expensive option, in which RTL constantly pushes the opponent out of 236H, extending the Fireball's active time and covers RTL's gap later. It chips ~>17% on Ky if normal blocked, drains ~75% Tension on FD.

Sacred Edge

236236P

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
236236P 22×5 [26×5] All 4+3 Until Hit 32 +10 [+15] none
DI 236236P 20×8 All 4+3 Until Hit 32 +21 none

  • Puts the opponent in Shock State on contact.
  • [] values refer to hitting an opponent already in Shock State
  • Hitting an opponent in the corner causes a Wall Break and leaves Ky +36 afterwards.

A large and fast moving projectile that's very advantageous on block. Gains more damage and frame advantage when hitting an opponent in Shock State. Usually used as combo filler to add more damage, but it also works as an anti-zoning tool to blow through ordinary projectiles. Choosing to use it as the wall breaking Overdrive puts the opponent in Shock State in addition to the usual Overdrive wall break hard knockdown, giving you more pressure options afterwards. The resulting Positive Bonus will also quickly replenish the spent Tension.

In Dragon Install, it hits more times and no longer loses hits when clashing with other attacks, increasing its utility as an anti-zoning tool.

Dragon Install

214214H at 30% or less health

Damage GuardHow this attack can be blocked. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupThe number of frames between inputting an attack and when the attack becomes active. Includes first active frame. ActiveThe number of frames for which a move has hitboxes. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryThe number of frames after a move's active frames during which the character cannot act assuming the move is not canceled. On-BlockThe difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invuln
80 [88] All 11+1 5 34 -5 none

  • Can only be activated when at 30% or lower HP. Ky's health bar will turn orange and he will have a red lightning effect on his upper body.
  • Enhances Ky's specials and Overdrives for the rest of the round.
  • 1f of startup after cinematic, meaning the opponent can reversal through it.
  • Hitting an opponent with the activation shockwave in the corner causes a Wall Break and leaves Ky +36 afterwards.

A transformation super for enabling comebacks. It is difficult to get into safely, since it has a long recovery and no invulnerability. Generally, you'll need to combo into the activation, or do it off of a hard knockdown such as 2D, Dire Eclat, or throw. If the opponent blocks the shockwave, it's usually safe unless it was Instant Blocked or done to a cornered opponent, since both of these will cancel the pushback. Using it as a wall breaker to gain Positive Bonus and the Overdrive wall break hard knockdown is another potentially powerful option.

In Dragon Install, Ky gains access to powered up special moves and Overdrives, plus high damage H Vapor Thrust loop combos. Check the Strategy section for more details.

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