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This section will make use of more difficult, advanced techniques includeing 6FRC6 and jump installs. Before attempting these, it is recommended to read the following sections in order to understand these mechanics/techniques. This section will assume the player understands these. Links to explanations below. | This section will make use of more difficult, advanced techniques includeing 6FRC6 and jump installs. Before attempting these, it is recommended to read the following sections in order to understand these mechanics/techniques. This section will assume the player understands these. Links to explanations below. | ||
*[[GGACR/Movement#Jump_Install|Jump Install (JI)]] | *[[GGACR/Movement#Jump_Install| Jump Install (JI)]] | ||
*[[GGACR/I-No/AdvancedTechniques#632146K_.3E_6FRC6| {{clr|2|632146K}} 6FRC6]] | *[[GGACR/I-No/AdvancedTechniques#632146K_.3E_6FRC6| JI {{clr|2|632146K}} 6FRC6]] | ||
*[[GGACR/I-No/Leverless_Input_Tricks#JI_632146K.2FS_.28Jump_Install_Chemical_Love_.29| JI {{clr|2|632146K}} Guide for Leverless Input Devices (Hitbox, Keyboard)]] | *[[GGACR/I-No/Leverless_Input_Tricks#JI_632146K.2FS_.28Jump_Install_Chemical_Love_.29| JI {{clr|2|632146K}} Guide for Leverless Input Devices (Hitbox, Keyboard)]] | ||
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{{TheoryBox | {{TheoryBox | ||
| Title = {{clr|1|6P}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > JI {{clr|2|632146K}} > 6FRC6 | | Title = {{clr|1|6P}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > JI {{clr|2|632146K}} > 6FRC6 > ... | ||
| Oneliner = Best confirm and combo extender | | Oneliner = Best confirm and combo extender | ||
| Difficulty = {{clr|4|Very Hard}} | | Difficulty = {{clr|4|Very Hard}} | ||
| Anchor = ThrowMid2 | | Anchor = ThrowMid2 | ||
| Recipe = {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|1|6P}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > JI {{clr|2|632146K}} > 6FRC6 > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|2|j.K}} > {{clr|3|j.632146S}} > HD > {{clr|3|j.S}} > 9djc. > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|2|j.236K}} | | Recipe = {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|1|6P}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > JI {{clr|2|632146K}} > 6FRC6 > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|2|j.K}} > {{clr|3|j.632146S}} > HD > {{clr|3|j.S}} > 9djc. > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|2|j.236K}} (Midscreen) | ||
| Youtube = | | Youtube = | ||
| Size = 300 | | Size = 300 | ||
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{{TheoryBox | {{TheoryBox | ||
| Title = JI {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|2|632146K}} > 6FRC6 > | | Title = JI {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|2|632146K}} > 6FRC6 > ... | ||
| Oneliner = Best low combo starter | | Oneliner = Best low combo starter | ||
| Difficulty = {{clr|4|Very Hard}} | | Difficulty = {{clr|4|Very Hard}} | ||
| Anchor = ThrowMid2 | | Anchor = ThrowMid2 | ||
| Recipe = JI {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|2|632146K}} > 6FRC6 > | | Recipe = JI {{clr|3|2S}} > {{clr|2|632146K}} > 6FRC6 > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|2|j.K}} > FF {{clr|3|j.632146S}} > {{clr|4|5H}} > 9jc. > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|1|j.236P}} > AD > {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|1|j.236P}}(slight hold) > AD {{clr|3|j.S}} > {{clr|4|j.H}} > {{clr|1|j.236}}(slight hold) > TK {{clr|1|j.214P}} (Corner sample into 3-hit note) | ||
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To get a 3-hit note setup, you will need to knock down the opponent after your combo, while keeping enough distance between you for the note to travel and increase the number of hits it will deal. After a {{clr|2|j.236K}} ender (your easiest combo ender) this is impossible. There are several combo enders you can use to get this spacing needed. | To get a 3-hit note setup, you will need to knock down the opponent after your combo, while keeping enough distance between you for the note to travel and increase the number of hits it will deal. After a {{clr|2|j.236K}} ender (your easiest combo ender) this is impossible. There are several combo enders you can use to get this spacing needed. | ||
#{{clr|1|j.236P}}: This is tricky due to {{clr|1|j.236P}} hitting at a very downwards angle, and the limited untech time. In order to get a knockdown with this move, you will need to hit the opponent while they are very low. | #{{clr|1|j.236P}}: This is tricky due to {{clr|1|j.236P}} hitting at a very downwards angle, and the limited untech time. In order to get a knockdown with this move, you will need to hit the opponent while they are very low. | ||
#{{clr|3|j.236S}}: Getting this to knockdown is easier than {{clr|1|j. | #{{clr|3|j.236S}}: Getting this to knockdown is easier than {{clr|1|j.236P}}, however since I-No does not bounce back like with {{clr|1|j.236P}} this is not a guaranteed 3-hit note setup unless it was spaced correctly. | ||
#Midscreen {{clr|5|j.D}} > {{clr|3|632146S}}: Ending a combo with this sequence can give a knockdown if {{clr|3|632146S}} hit them at the right height, and gives enough advantage and spacing for 3-hit note. Against the corner this cannot provide the needed spacing. | #Midscreen {{clr|5|j.D}} > {{clr|3|632146S}}: Ending a combo with this sequence can give a knockdown if {{clr|3|632146S}} hit them at the right height, and gives enough advantage and spacing for 3-hit note. Against the corner this cannot provide the needed spacing. | ||
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Warning For New Players
Caution/Warning/Danger: If you're brand new to this game and the first thing you did was come here to find combos to practice, please go to the drills section linked above. It has some onboarding suggestions if you've played other games or are starting fresh, as well as "execution practice drills" that will help you practice useful stuff first so you wont risk grinding some difficult and impractical combo listed in here by mistake.
I-No Combo Theory
Should go without saying, but read the rest of the page for the details. The gist of it is:
- Always end in knockdown so you can use I-No's strong oki tools.
- If you can't, fake it till you make it. Airthrow reset.
- Get your opponent to the corner so you can diveloop which does plenty of meterless damage.
- Meterless techniques to get there: 6P > 5H > sj.IAD j.K j.S > j.632146S(FFVCL), or f.S > IAD j.K > j.S > j.632146S(FFVCL), or 6P > c.S > j.S > dj.S > j.632146S > airdash j.K > j.S > j.632146S(FFVCL). FFVCL explanation; perform the move shortly after the airdash.
- Metered techniques to get there:
- j.632146K 6FRC6 if already airborne. 6FRC6 explanation.
- JI 632146K 6FRC6 if grounded. Jump install explanation.
- j.236D which provides full screen corner carry, can be canceled instantly with any button and refreshes your double jump and airdashes.
- Diveloop is basically "air normals > j.236P > airdash cancel" repeated till you're out of airdashes, then j.236K for knockdown.
So how should one optimize?
- Avoid using meter on heavily prorated combos where possible.
- Caveat: It can be worth it to use 25% on an FRC or j.236D just to get knockdown or corner carry if you have no meterless alternative, if you'll have extra afterward, since you wont get any more for several seconds. If your oki fails you'll be at a disadvantage.
- I-No has so many strong metered tools that generally speaking, you should only use the minimum meter needed to convert, unless it'll kill (or be burst safe so you can bait and punish a burst).
- Try to do your damage in fewer hits so you'll give your opponent less meter and burst. Doing huge (20+ hit) combos that end in super is a big waste.
- Caveat: If it kills, it was worth it.
- Caveat: Sometimes it's worth dragging a combo out so you can start building meter again, if you used an FRC or Force Break to set up or confirm a combo.
- Consider damage breakpoints as you decide which combos are worth using.
- Full health is 460 points.
- Therefore, 92 damage is 20% (5 combos at this damage to kill). 115 damage is 25%. 154 damage is 33.4%. 230 damage is 50%. 306 damage is 66.6%. 345 damage is 75%. 368 damage is 80%.
- Don't forget that your 230 damage combo is probably only going to hit for like 150 the second time due to guts, so you're not winning in two touches in most matchups.
- While you should generally aim for as much damage as you can reasonably get, breakpoints might help you decide that the combo variant with the 1-frame link isn't worth the extra 8 damage.
Facts/Data about combos (for the DIY types)
You can find all of this on other parts of the wiki, but I've compiled it for your convenience in case you like figuring stuff out for yourself:
- Damage scaling reduces the damage done by each hit in the combo. You see this represented by the Guard Bar under each player's health bar, which defaults to 50% full. Hits below 50% guard bar are scaled.
- Supers scale at a different rate (faster) than other moves. You're better off landing raw supers and converting into combos where possible, or doing a single hit to hit-confirm.
- Lower attack level moves typically scale combos harder than higher attack level moves, and they crank up the guard bar by fewer points on block.
- Proration is a different system applied on top of regular scaling:
- Attacks with "initial prorates" reduce the damage of a combo when they start the combo.
- Attacks with "forced prorate" reduce the damage of every subsequent hit, no matter where they are used in the combo.
- Prorates can go to progressively worse, but a "forced prorate" cannot stack on top of a regular "prorate", nor can you apply multiple "forced prorates".
- Ex: In the string 2K > 6P > f.S > j.H, the 2K starter will apply a 75% prorate to the 6P, but the 6P's 90% forced gets ignored and we use the 75% prorate on the f.S, which updates the prorate to 60%, which is applied to the damage of the j.H.
- EX: In the string 6P > c.S > 6P > c.S, the first 6P does full damage, but the first c.S has the 90% prorate applied, then the second 6P also has the forced prorate applied to it. The second c.S only has a 90% prorate applied to it, not two of them from both 6P's having a "forced prorate."
- You build less meter per hit and your opponents get more meter per hit the longer your combo goes on.
- Your opponent gets more burst replenished with each hit of your combo.
- Hitstun decays the longer (in actual time, not hits) a combo goes on.
- Meter gain gets prorated for a set period of time when you use an RC, FRC, or Force Break, as well as when using a Dead Angle or Faultless Defense. Keep this in mind as you try to build meter with your combos.
Combo Guide
IMPORTANT: Slayer is used as a training dummy in most videos listed because his weight and hitboxes generally make him easy to combo. Combos listed here will be generally universal. Due to differing character weights and hurtboxes, you will likely need to make small adjustments to timing, or add moves to stabilize the combo when comboing other characters. When possible, suggested adjustments will be listed.
Combo Starters
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Best Starters (All Have No Proration): j.P; j.S; j.H; 5P; 5K; c.S; 2S; 5H; 2H; 6H; 2D; j.236K(CH only); j.2363214S(Genkai Fortissimo); 632146H(Longing Desperation) Good Starters: j.K(90%); 6P(90%); 41236H(90%) Okay Starters: j.D(80%); 2P(80%); 2K(75%);; 41236S(80%); j.236S(80%); j.236D(80%) Bad Starters (Avoid Using Meter if Possible): f.S(60%); Air Throw(50%); Ground Throw(40%) |
- 6H generally requires CH or RC to combo.
- j.236K causes slide on CH which gives strong confirms.
- j.D launches opponents upwards and can be jump canceled. Easy air combo starter.
- Proration will impact how much damage the following combo will do, explained here.
- Combos that start with "..." indicate that multiple starters are possible for this combo.
- Damage values listed are damage on Sol starting at full health.
- If combo is impossible on Sol, character used instead will be listed in Notes tab.
For beginners
Basic combos are simple combos with the fewest requirements and conditions possible. They:
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I-No has some of the hardest execution in the game, however her execution doesn't exactly gatekeep her gameplan. Her execution gatekeeps her damage and confirms, however you can still run her classic knockdown > note or f.S oki > mixup. You will just lose out on a lot of damage if you don't have the execution for her better combos, but you can still play a functional character and deal damage using some easier starters such as j.D, CH j.236K, or 41236H.
Once you learn her best confirms, any mixup will hold the threat of serious damage. Learning these confirms and routes will take time, so while you're learning them these are simple and reliable combos you can fall back on. These are things that will continue to be useful as you develop as well, as simple and straight-forward is always valuable.
2K > 2S > 2D
I-No's most basic combo into knockdown. This will work at most ranges, and depending on character you may be able to cancel the 2D into 632146K for additional damage. Reference for which characters this works on.
2K > 2S > 5H > 41236S > 632146K
Basic combo on crouchers. If the opponent does not mash out of the stagger, you may use 632146K to go into knockdown. May also use 2D > 632146K if this will combo on the opponent. Otherwise, you must use the stagger as a reset point.
632146K will hit all characters if they are staggered except Baiken and Kliff. Baiken requires the 2K be done right next to her, Kliff is impossible. Baiken may also be hit with a very low j.632146K, as this is lower than a grounded 632146K.
If the opponent is mashing out of the stagger, you may use 2S, f.S, or hoverdash to continue your offense, forcing them to block or attempting a mixup.
May roman cancel for more followup opportunities.
2K > 2S > 5H > 632146K
Basic combo on standing characters. 632146K will not hit all standing character, reference for which characters this works on.
May extend combo using jump install and the FRC on 632146K. This is an advanced technique covered in detail here. This is not necessary to master while starting out.
2K > 6P > 5H > 9jc. > dl. j.H > dl. j.214H
Basic combo into note oki. Note will not provide oki if you are too close to the corner. There is a short delay before the j.H, and a longer delay before the j.214H to ensure the note hits meaty. This depends on opponent wakeup speed, and you can cancel the j.H into j.214H very late. j.214P may also be used for oki after this sequence.
If the j.H is too early, the opponent may be able to tech out of the combo before landing into knockdown. You may still have the advantage as the note is headed towards them already, however this is not guaranteed.
Getting knockdown from this sequence may not be possible on all characters (to be tested) unless the opponent misses their tech after the j.H.
2K > c.S > 6P > f.S > 9 > j.H > dl. j.214H
Slightly more lenient combo into note oki that does higher damage. Timing the delay between j.H and j.214H is much less strict. Still must delay significantly.
Does not work on Johnny, Ky, or Eddie.
Possible (untested) that Baiken will always be able to tech out of the combo. It's possible your opponent misses their tech and could give you knockdown anyways, but be warned. It is at minimum difficult.
6P > c.S > 9sjc. > j.S > j.H > j.236K
Basic anti-air combo. 6P moves I-No forwards slightly, so this may cause the opponent to land behind you if they are close over you.
Avoid super jumping with a 2369 motion, resulting in accidental j.236S.
Opponent character hurtboxes may make this route easier or harder.
2K > 6P > 5H > 9jc. > j.H > j.236S(slight hold) > c.S > 9jc. > j.S > j.H > j.236K
Difficulty of this combo is highly character dependent, as it is greatly affected by their hitboxes and weight. For example, this is extremely difficult on Robo-Ky. Some adjustments are likely needed for various characters.
Timing of the j.236S to c.S link is crucial, and mostly depends on the height of the opponent when you hit them with j.236S. You must hold j.236S for a short moment usually in order to ensure the opponent is hit correctly.
If the opponent is able to tech out before c.S then you hit the opponent while they were too high. If c.S whiffs and the opponent is knockded down, you either pressed c.S too late or hit the opponent too low. Adding 5P or 2P before c.S makes this easier, but adds pushback which may be worse for some characters.
After the c.S, superjump may be used instead of normal jump, and a j.P or j.K may be inserted before the j.S. These may make the combo easier depending on character.
Core Combos
Core combos balance potency with consistency. They:
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The following combos are ones that are much more difficult than the beginner combos. They are very useful to learn, but will require more time practicing in order to get them consistent. These are something to work on while you have the beginner combos to fall back on.
2K > 6P > 5H > sj.IAD > j.K > j.S > FF j.632146S > 632146K
Gives decent corner carry without having to spend meter. One of the few routes I-No has that doesn't rely on j.236D or JI 632146K 6FRC6 to extend the combo.
Using sj.IAD is not always required. Sometimes, regular IAD can work. sj.IAD will always at least make the combo easier however, and on some characters normal IAD will not work.
This combo drops on Johnny, A.B.A, Ky, and Robo-Ky. For Johnny, the 6P > 5H > sj.IAD > sj.K is impossible if Johnny was hit while grounded. Reference for 5H > sj.IAD > sj.K leniency.
6P > c.S > 9sjc. > j.K > j.S > j.632146S > AD > j.K > j.S > FF j.632146S > 632146K
Decent extension of anti-air combo listed in beginner combos. Followups after superjump cancel may drop depending on horizontal spacing.
CH 5H/2H > 41236H > 9sjc. > dl. j.236P > AD > j.S > j.H > j.236K
Short meterless combo off 41236H launch. Delay the j.236P in order to adjust height. Depending on opponent weight and hurtboxes, you may have to delay more or less, or substitute the superjump with normal jump.
41236 can only be comboed into off counter hit 5H or 2H. The combo can be completed as normal if the first hit (5H or 2H) is excluded.
2K > 6P > 5H > 9jc. > j.H > j.236S(slight hold) > (5P/2P) > c.S > 9sjc. > j.S > j.H > j.236P > AD > j.S > j.H > j.236P > AD > j.S > j.H > j.236K
Extension of the previous combo, even more dependent on opponent weight and hurtboxes. You may end the combo early with j.236K at almost any point after the superjump, which is much preferable to dropping the combo.
The 5P/2P after the j.236S is optional. This will reduce damage, but makes the combo much easier on most characters. Adding 5P/2P is recommended against Sol.
While performing this combo, you must sometimes hold the j.236P in order to let the opponent drop further. Depending on relative height of the opponent to I-No, you may need to skip the j.S and go straight from the airdash into j.H, as the j.S may bring them up too high.
Performing this consistently will require practice against every character, in order for you to learn when and how to make adjustments.
CH 5H/2H > 41236H > 9sjc. > dl. j.236P > AD > j.S > j.H > j.236S > (5P/2P) > c.S > 9sjc. > j.S > j.H > j.236P > AD > j.S > j.H > j.236P > AD > j.S > j.H > j.236K
Extending previous CH 5H > 41236 combo into diveloops if midscreen or closer to the corner. Due to the length of the combo, the diveloops are much tighter than in the previous combo listed.
Do not expect to be doing this often, but this is a demonstration of linking different portions of the previously mentioned routes together to get better results.
j.S > 6P > 5H > 9jc. > TK j.236H > c.S > 9jc. > j.S > j.H > j.236P > AD > j.H > j.236P > AD > j.S > j.H > j.236K
The sample combo provided is done on Robo-Ky because 6P > 5H > j.H is very difficult on him, and this leads into 3-hit note setups (explained in the Advanced Combos section). This is very good to know for the matchup. Listed at the bottom of this block are the different groups characters will fall into for this combo. Different groups will need parts of this combo changed or substituted.
Compared to 6P > 5H > j.H corner combos, this deals less damage but builds more meter. Given how good I-No's metered options are, this is often very worthwhile to use. Additionally, the 6P > 5H > j.H route may be difficult on some characters, and using TK j.236H combos could potentially provide an easier route and more meter to enhance your next combo or help in neutral/defense later.
For 5H > 9jc. > TK j.236H, you may make the timing easier by waiting for the end of 5H's hitstop before inputting the 2369H for TK j.236H. Holding 2 for a moment before doing this motion helps avoid super jumping, which can make a mistimed TK j.236H safer, or rather not as awful a drop, in most circumstances.
Alternatively, this may be input by buffering the jump cancel after 5H early during 5H's hitstop, then timing the TK j.236H after the jump.
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Lowest TK | j.236H must be done as low as possible after the 5H jump cancel. |
Low TK | j.236H must be done low to the ground after the 5H jump cancel, but doesn't need to be as low as possible. |
dl. TK | Delay j.236H after 5H jump cancel, doing too low may cause whiff. Line up your height with the opponent. |
Raw 6P, Lowest TK | The starter must be 6P, j.236H must be done as low as possible. Only Millia. |
Raw 6P, dl. TK | The starter must be 6P for combo to work, and the j.236H must be delayed after the jump cancel. |
6P > c.S, dl. TK | Substitute 5H with c.S, delay j.236H after jump cancel. |
None | j.236H routes do not work on Axl Low, Dizzy, Jam, Order-Sol, Sol, or Zappa. |
Advanced Combos/Techniques
WORK IN PROGRESS
Specialized combos are advanced routes which require more knowledge and awareness, but offer advantages over core routes. They:
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This section will make use of more difficult, advanced techniques includeing 6FRC6 and jump installs. Before attempting these, it is recommended to read the following sections in order to understand these mechanics/techniques. This section will assume the player understands these. Links to explanations below.
632146K 6FRC6 is one of the primary barriers that gatekeeps I-No's best confirms and damage. If you can do this technique, you will be able to confirm off many single hit normals and extend corner carry significantly.
j.S > 6P > 5H > JI 632146K > 6FRC6 > j.S > j.K > j.632146S > HD > j.S > 9djc. > j.S > j.H > j.236K (Midscreen)
Most fundamental application of 632146K 6FRC6. 6P launches opponent so that 632146K will hit regardless of if the opponent was standing or crouching, and 5H is jump cancelable so the 632146K may be jump installed.
The j.S > j.K sequence can be substituted for other moves, such as j.S > j.H, however using j.S > j.K keeps the opponent higher which makes the hoverdash followup much easier. Certain characters such as Sol will often have the j.S whiff underneath them if they are launched with 6P > 5H. For Sol it is advised to do 6P > 632146K > 6FRC6 to keep him lower. This requires jump install prior to 6P, which can be obtained with landing recovery jump install or combo jump install using c.S > 8 JI > 6P for example.
JI 2S > 632146K > 6FRC6 > j.S > j.K > FF j.632146S > 5H > 9jc. > j.H > j.236P > AD > j.S > j.H > j.236P(slight hold) > AD j.S > j.H > j.236(slight hold) > TK j.214P (Corner sample into 3-hit note)
I-No's best low combo starter, as unlike 2K her 2S has no proration. As you require jump install prior to 2S, this must either be done with landing recovery jump install or canceling into 2S off a jump-cancelable normal and jump installing manually.
2S > 5H > JI 632146K > 6FRC6 is an alternative low combo starter that may be easier to perform and can actually do more damage. However, due to pushback from 5H this will not work on every character at all ranges, and will not work on crouchers at any range under normal circumstances. With 2S > 632146K you may be close enough for the wider section of 632146K's hitbox to hit a crouching opponent, and may get confirms on standing opponents from further away.
j.S > c.S > 6P > 5H > JI 632146K > 6FRC6 > j.S > FF 632146S > HD > j.S > 9djc. > j.S > j.H > j.236P(slight hold) > AD > j.H > j.236(slight hold) > TK j.214P (Testament specific example)
The easiest knockdowns you will get will most often lead to 2-hit notes for oki. This leaves room for the opponent to potentially counterattack in the gap between the note and your hoverdash in, it isn't completely gapless most of the time. 3-hit notes will be completely gapless, allowing you to do much safer mixups on oki, however the method to getting the knockdown that allows this is tricky and often very character specific.
To get a 3-hit note setup, you will need to knock down the opponent after your combo, while keeping enough distance between you for the note to travel and increase the number of hits it will deal. After a j.236K ender (your easiest combo ender) this is impossible. There are several combo enders you can use to get this spacing needed.
- j.236P: This is tricky due to j.236P hitting at a very downwards angle, and the limited untech time. In order to get a knockdown with this move, you will need to hit the opponent while they are very low.
- j.236S: Getting this to knockdown is easier than j.236P, however since I-No does not bounce back like with j.236P this is not a guaranteed 3-hit note setup unless it was spaced correctly.
- Midscreen j.D > 632146S: Ending a combo with this sequence can give a knockdown if 632146S hit them at the right height, and gives enough advantage and spacing for 3-hit note. Against the corner this cannot provide the needed spacing.
Video examples of these routes on all characters can be found in Character Specifics. Not all characters have routes found.
Playlists featuring examples
Character Specifics
Character | Weight Class | 2D > 632146K(HCL) | 632146K Hit Standing? | 6P > 5H > sj.IAD j.K/j.P Link Window | 6P > 5H > 9jc. > TK j.236H in corner | 3-Hit Note Setup | 6P > f.S Combos? |
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A.B.A | Heavy | Generally can't 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / whiff | dl. TK [link] | [2K Starter] [j.H Starter] [2S Starter] [2S Starter #2] | Yes |
Anji Mito | Mid | Can 2D > HCL if close | Yes | 2f / whiff | Low TK [link] | [j.S Starter] | Yes |
Axl Low | Mid | Can 2D > HCL if close | Yes | 2f / whiff | None | [j.S, 2K, 41236H Starter] | Yes |
Baiken | V.Light | Can 2D > HCL if close | No-TK j.632146K hits | 2f / whiff | dl. TK [link] | [j.K, 2K Starter] [2S Starter] | Yes |
Bridget | V.Light | Can 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / whiff | dl. TK [link] | [2K Starter] [j.H starter] [j.D Starter] | Yes |
Chipp Zanuff | Mid | Can 2D > HCL | Yes-not max range | 2f / whiff | Raw 6P, dl. TK [link] | [2S Starter] | Yes |
Dizzy | Light | Generally can't 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / whiff | None | [j.K Starter] [41236H Starter] | Yes |
Eddie | Mid | Can 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / whiff | Low TK [link] | [j.K Starter] [j.D Starter] | Yes-Limited followup options |
Faust | Mid | Can 2D > HCL | No | 2f / 2f | Raw 6P, dl. TK [link] | [2S Starter] | Yes |
I-No | Light | Generally can't 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / 2f | Low TK [link] | [2S Starter] | Yes |
Jam Kuradoberi | V.Light | Can 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / black beat combo | None | [5H Starter] [j.D starter] [j.2624S Starter (Super)] | Yes |
Justice | Light | Can 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / 2f | Low TK [link] | [2K Starter] | Yes |
Johnny | Heavy | Can 2D > HCL | Yes | whiff / whiff | Lowest TK [link] | [2K Starter] | No |
Kliff Undersn | V.Light | Generally can't 2D > HCL | No | 2f / whiff | 6P > c.S, dl. TK [link] | [j.K Starter] | Yes |
Ky Kiske | Mid | Generally can't 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / whiff | Low TK [link] | [2K, j.S Starter] | Yes |
May | V.Light | Can 2D > HCL | Yes-no combo off 2H, 5H, or far 2S | 2f / 1f | 6P > c.S/5H > dl. TK [link] | [j.H Starter] [j.2624S Starter (Super)] [CH 5H Starter] | Yes |
Millia Rage | Light | Can 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / 1f | Raw 6P, Lowest TK [link] | [j.K Starter] [j.S Starter] | Yes |
Order-Sol | Mid | Can 2D > HCL if close | Yes | 2f / whiff | None | [2S Starter] | Yes |
Potemkin | V.Heavy | Can 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / whiff | Lowest TK [link] | [2K Starter] | Yes |
Robo-Ky | V.Heavy | Generally can't 2D > HCL | Yes | 1f / whiff | Lowest TK [link] | [2K Starter] [j.S, j.D, 41236H, Throw, etc. Starter] | Yes-Limited followup options |
Slayer | Heavy | Can 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / 1f | dl. TK [link] | [j.D Starter] | Yes |
Sol Badguy | Mid | Can 2D > HCL if close | Yes | 2f / 1f | None | [j.S Starter] [2S Starter] [j.D Starter] | Yes |
Testament | Mid | Can 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / whiff | Low TK [link] | [j.S Starter] | Yes |
Venom | Mid | Generally can't 2D > HCL | Yes | 2f / whiff | Raw 6P, dl. TK [link] | [j.S, 41236H Starter] | Yes |
Zappa | Mid | Can 2D > HCL | No | 2f / whiff | None | [j.S Starter] | Yes |
2D > 632146K(HCL)
Characters are assigned to 1 of 3 groups, with each group being the union of smaller subgroups corresponding to different distances where 2D HCL will work. Below is a list of the 9 subgroups in order of decreasing range where 2D > HCL will connect.
Explanation of chart catagories
- Can 2D > HCL: 2D > HCL connects on a grounded opponent from any range where 2D will connect.
- All ranges (midscreen/corner): JA, BR, TE, JU, ZA, JO, MA, FA, CH, MI, ED, PO, SL
- Can 2D > HCL if close: 2D > HCL connects at most ranges on a grounded opponent but HCL may whiff if 2D connects from far enough away.
- All ranges (midscreen), microwalk closer than 2D tip (corner): BA
- Microwalk closer than 2D tip range (midscreen), 5K tip range (corner): SO
- Microwalk closer than 2D tip range (midscreen), Microwalk closer than 5K tip range (corner): AN, OS
- 5K tip range and closer (midscreen), Microwalk closer than 5K tip range (corner): AX
- Generally can't 2D > HCL: 2D > HCL only connects at ranges where one would typically use normals other than 2D (such as in gatlings).
- 5P tip range and closer (midscreen/corner): VE
- 5P tip range and closer (midscreen), 2P tip range and closer (corner): KL, DI, IN
- 2P tip range and closer (midscreen/corner): KY, RO
- 2P tip range and closer (midscreen), point blank (corner): AB
632146K Hit Standing?
At close range, 632146K will always hit the opponent due to the hitbox near I-No being lower to the ground.
Baiken | Whiffs above her. Low TK j.632146K can hit her standing. |
Chipp | At max range, whiffs above Chipp. Low TK may hit him. |
Faust | Whiffs. |
Kliff | Whiffs. |
May | Will hit May raw. If comboed into off 2S, 5H, or 2H, May's hurt animation causes this to whiff. |
Zappa | Whiffs. |
6P > 5H > sj.IAD j.K/j.P Link Window
Midscreen meterless BNB. Frame windows for j.K listed assume the sj.IAD is done frame perfect, giving only up to a 2 frame window for j.K. Realistically, the opponent may not tech out of the combo perfectly, however this is very tight timing.
- Tips to avoid accidental j.236K
- Using sj.IAD is always more lenient than normal jump IAD, so it is recommended to always use sj.IAD.
- Using j.K is better than j.P. j.P is no easier and only works on some characters, it is included for completeness.
6P > 5H > 9jc. > TK j.236H Corner Combo
What specifics for corner combo utilizing 6P > c.S/5H > 9jc. > TK j.236H works for each character.
More detail in Core Combos section.
Group | Changes Required |
---|---|
Lowest TK | j.236H must be done as low as possible after the 5H jump cancel. |
Low TK | j.236H must be done low to the ground after the 5H jump cancel, but doesn't need to be as low as possible. |
dl. TK | Delay j.236H after 5H jump cancel, doing too low may cause whiff. Line up your height with the opponent. |
Raw 6P, Lowest TK | The starter must be 6P, j.236H must be done as low as possible. Only Millia. |
Raw 6P, dl. TK | The starter must be 6P for combo to work, and the j.236H must be delayed after the jump cancel. |
6P > c.S, dl. TK | Substitute 5H with c.S, delay j.236H after jump cancel. |
None | j.236H routes do not work on Axl Low, Dizzy, Jam, Order-Sol, Sol, or Zappa. |
3 hit Note Setups
Allows for gapless oki into lows. Routes vary greatly between characters.
More detail in Advanced Combos.
6P > f.S Combos?
This route works on most characters, but is impossible on Johnny. On Eddie and Ky, f.S cannot be followed up with a jump normal after a forwards jump. May combo into j.S if performed out of hoverdash. May also followup with 632146K or TK j.236H. TK j.236H may be followed up meterlessly with c.S if in the corner.
Combo Catalog
The purpose of the previous section (Combo Guide) is to show recommended combos to learn, with video example. The purpose of this section is as a catalog of many different possible routes.
Entry-Level Mid-Screen Combos: All Characters
Combo | Damage | Notes | Video |
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... > 2S > 2H/2D > 632146K | 78 (2K and 2H) / 72 (2K and 2D) / 120 (c.5S and 2H) / 113 (c.5S and 2D | Combo off 2H only works standing, 2D only some characters. List | Link |
... > 2S > 2H/2D > 632146K | 78 (2K and 2H) / 72 (2K and 2D) / 120 (c.5S and 2H) / 113 (c.5S and 2D | Combo off 2H only works standing, 2D only some characters. List | Link |
... > 2S > 2H > 41236S > 632146K/(2D > 632146K) | 96 (2K) / 106 (2K and 2D) / 146 (c.5S) / 159 (c.5S and 2D) | Basic crouch confirm. 41236S stagger can be mashed to avoid followups. | Link |
... > 6P > f.S > j.S > dj.H > j.236K | 84 (2K) / 116 (c.5S) | Basic launch combo. | Link |
... > 6P > f.S > j.S > jc.H > j.236S > 5P > sjc.PSH > j.236K | 107 (2K), 139 (c.5S) | Your first rejump combo. | Link |
... > 6P > f.S > 63214656K(DM HCL*) > 5P > c.S > jc.S > jc.H > j.236K | 107 (2K), 139 (c.5S) | HCL link for when you're out of c.S range. Dash HCL explanation | Link |
j.D > jc.H > j.236S > 5P > sjc.PSH > j.236K | 134 | Midscreen j.D starter. | Link |
Entry-Level Corner Combos: All Characters
Combo | Damage | Notes | Video |
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... > 6P > 41236S > 5K > jc.SH > j.236S > c.S > jc.SH > j.236K | 135 (2K) / 183 (c.5S) | Basic corner combo. | Link |
2K > 6P > c.S > jc.SH > j.236S > c.S > jc.SH > j.236K | 131 | 2K starter corner combo. | Link |
... > 6P > 5H > jc.H > j.236S > c.S > jc.SH > j.236K | 131 (2K) / 178 (c.5S) | Easier corner relaunch combo. | Link |
... > 6P > 5H > jc.H > j.236S > c.S > sjc.SH > j.236P > air dash j.H > j.236P > air dash j.SH > j.236K | 152 (2K) / 204 (c.5S) | Harder corner relaunch combo utilizing P Dive. | Link |
j.D > jc.H > j.236S > c.S > jc.SH > j.236P > air dash j.S > j.632146S(FF VCL) > c.S > jc.SH > j.236K | 187 | j.D starter corner combo using FF HCL. | Link |
j.D > jc.H > j.236P > air dash j.H > j.236S > c.S > jc.SH > j.236K | 164 | Easier j.D combo at the cost of some damage. | Link |
j.D > jc.H > j.236P > air dash j.S > j.632146S(FF VCL) > c.S > sjc.SH > j.236P > air dash j.SH > j.236K | 185 | Alternate j.D starter route. | Link |
Instant Airdash combos
- Starter > 6P > 5H > (A)/(B)...
- (A) IAD j.K > j.S > j.632146S(FF VCL) > 2D > 632146K
- [MS, KD, no KY/RO/AB, 112dmg (2K) / 159dmg (c.5S)]
- (B) IAD j.K > j.S > j.632146S(FF VCL) > c.S > j.S > j.H > j.236P > air dash j.S > j.H > j.236K
- [CN, KD, no KY/RO/AB, 136dmg (2K) / 189dmg (c.5S)]
Anti-Air Starter Combos
Combo | Damage | Notes | Video |
---|---|---|---|
6P (AA) > c.S > j.S > j.H/dj.H > j.236S > 5P > sj.P > sj.S > sj.H > j.236K | 152 | [MS, KD] Input 5p 639p to get sj.p without a dive. | Link |
6P (AA) > c.S > sj.K > sj.S > j.632146S > (delay) air dash j.K > j.S > j.632146S(FF VCL) > 2S/2D > 632146K | 156 (2D) | [MS, KD] | Link |
6H (AA, CH, 2nd hit only) > dash j.S > dj.S (dj.H) > j.236S > (5P)/c.S > (sj.P)/sj.S > sj.H > j.236K | 182 (dj.H, 5P and sj.P) / 175 (dj.S, 5P and sj.P) / 194 (dj.H, c.S) / 187 (dj.S, c.S) | [MS, KD] | Link |
Stroke The Big Tree Combos
STBT-H Starter
Note: These should generally work if you open with counterhit 5H/2H and combo into STBT-H.
Combo | Damage | Notes | Video |
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41236H > JC j.236P > air dash > j.S > j.H > j.236K | 121 | [MS, KD] | Link |
41236H > JC j.236P > air dash > j.S > j.H > c.S > j.S > j.H > j.236P > air dash j.H > j.236P > air dash j.S > j.H > j.236K | 192 | [CN, KD] | Link |
41236H > JC j.236S > c.S/5K > j.S > j.H > j.236S > c.S > sj.S > sj.H > j.236P > air dash j.H > j.236P > air dash (j.S >) j.H > j.236K | 216 (c.5S and j.S > j.H at the end) | [CN, KD] | Link |
41236H > JC j.D > dj.H > j.236S > c.S > j.S > j.H > j.236P > air dash j.H > j.236P > air dash j.S > j.H > j.236K | 212 | [CN, KD] | Link |
41236H > JC j.D > dj.H > j.236P > air dash j.S > j.632146S(FF VCL) > c.S > sj.S > sj.H > j.236P > air dash j.H > j.236P > air dash j.S > j.H > j.236K | 216 | [CN, KD] | Link |
41236H > JC 41236S > 5K > 632146K | 117 | [MS] | Link |
41236H > JC 41236S > c.S > j.S > j.H > j.236P > air dash j.H > j.236P > air dash j.S > j.H > j.236K | 197 | [CN, KD] | Link |
STBT-S Starter
Combo | Notes | Video |
---|---|---|
41236S > 2S > 632146K | [MS, KD] Whiffs if 41236S hit crouching. | Link |
41236S > 632146K | [MS, KD] Opponent can mash out of stagger. | |
41236S > 2D | [MS, KD] Opponent can mash out of stagger, but harder to escape than 632146K. | Link |
41236S > 5K > 632146K 6FRC6 > ... | [MS] You need to jump install with 5K to get the 6FRC6 (e.g. 6K321476K). | Link |
CH 41236S > 6321466S(DM VCL) > c.S > ... | [MS] Buffer 632146 during the S-STBT and input 6+S on seeing a counter hit. | Link |
CH 41236S> empty dash > c.S > ... | [MS] | Link |
CH 41236S > hoverdash j.D > 632146S > c.S > ... | [MS] The higher the opponent when hit by 632146S, the easier the c.S link. | Link |
Sultry Performance (Dive) Combos
Sdive
Combo | Damage | Notes | Video |
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j.236S > (5P/2P) 5K > 632146K | 82 (5K only) / 85 (5P > 5K) / 84 (2P > 5K) | [MS] | Link |
j.236S > (5P/2P) 5K/c.S > j.S > j.H > j.236S > c.S > sj.S > sj.H > j.236P > air dash j.H > j.236P > air dash j.S > j.H > j.236K | 166 (2P > c.S) / 167 (5P > c.S) / 174 (5K) / 157 (2P > 5K) / 184 (c.S) / 158 (5P > 5K) | [CN, KD] | Link |
j.236S > (5P/2P) 5K/c.S > j.S > j.H > j.236P > air dash j.S > 632146S(FF VCL) > c.S > j.S > j.H > j.236K | 170 (c.S) | [CN, KD] Wide hurtbox characters only. | Link |
Counterhit Kdive
Combo | Damage | Notes | Video |
---|---|---|---|
CH j.236K > Hover Dash j.S > c.S > j.S > j.H > j.236S > 5P > sj.P > sj.S > sj.H > j.236K | 181 | [MS, KD] | Link |
CH j.236K > 5H > j.H > j.236P > air dash j.H > j.236P > air dash j.S > j.H > c.S > j.S > j.H > j.236K | 215 | [CN, KD] | Link |
Advanced Combos
- Starter > 6P > 5H > TK HCL > 6FRC6 > air dash j.S > FF VCL > dash j.S > dj.S/dj.H > K Dive/S Dive
- [MS, KD, 25%, 184dmg (c.S then j.S > j.H) / 135dmg (2K then j.S > j.H)]
- Starter > 6P > 5H > IAD j.K > j.S > FF VCL > 5K > TK HCL > 6FRC6 > air dash j.s > FF VCL > dash j.S > dj.S/dj.H > K Dive
- [MS, KD, 25%]
- Starter > 6P > 5H > TK HCL > 6FRC6 > (A)/(B)/(C)...
- (A) air dash j.S > FF VCL > 5H > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > K Dive
- [CN, KD, 25%, 219dmg (c.S) / 163dmg (2K)]
- (B) air dash j.H > j.D > delay VCL > (5P/2P) c.S > j.S > j.H > K Dive
- [CN, KD, 25%, 207dmg (c.S as starter then c.S for the last juggle) / 203dmg (c.S then 5P > c.S) / 153dmg (2K then c.S) / 151dmg (2K then 5P > c.S) / ]
- (C) air dash FF VCL > c.S > j.S > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > FF VCL > c.S > sj.S > sj.H > P Dive > air dash j.H > P Dive > air dash j.H > K Dive
- [CN, KD, 25%]
- Starter > 6P > S STBT > 5K > TK HCL > 6FRC6 > air dash j.S > FF VCL > 5H > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > K Dive
- [CN, KD, 25%]
- HAD j.S > j.H > 5K > 2S > 2D > JI HCL > 6FRC6 > air dash j.S > j.H > c.S > j.S > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > c.S > VCL
- [MS, CR, KD, 25%]
- (2K) > 2S > (2H/2D) > JI HCL > 6FRC6 > air dash j.S > j.H > 5K > TK HCL > 6FRC6 > air dash j.S > FF VCL > c.S > j.S > j.H > K Dive
- [MS, KD, 50%, Must be standing if (2H/2D) are omitted]
- 6P (AA) > c.S > TK VCL > 6FRC6 > air dash S Dive > 5K > TK HCL > 6FRC6 > air dash j.S > FF VCL > dash j.S > dj.S > dj.H > K Dive
- [MS, KD, 50%]
- 6P (AA) > c.S > j.S > j.H > HCL > 6FRC6 > air dash j.H > S Dive > 5P > sj.P > sj.S > sj.H > K Dive
- [MS, KD, 25%, 179dmg]
- 6H (AA, CH, 2nd Hit Only) > dash j.S > dj.S > dj.H > S Dive > 5K > TK HCL > 6FRC6 > dash j.S > dj.H > K Dive
- [MS, KD, 25%]
Force Break Combos
- j.P (confirm) > FB Dive (All Hits) > FB Cancel > Double air dash j.H > P Dive > K Dive
- [MS, KD, 25%, 130dmg]
- 6P (AA) > c.S > TK FB Dive (All Hits) > FB Cancel > Double air dash j.H > K Dive
- [MS, KD, 25%, 144dmg]
- 6H (AA, CH, 2nd Hit Only) > dash j.S > dj.S > FB Dive (2-3 Hits) > FB Cancel > Double air dash j.H > S Dive > c.S > sj.S > sj.H > P Dive > air dash j.H > K Dive
- [MS, KD, 25%, 206dmg (3 hits FB)]
- Starter > 6P > 5H > TK HCL > 6FRC6 > air dash j.H > FB Dive (3 Hits) > FB Cancel > Double air dash j.H > K Dive
- [MS, KD, 50%, 182dmg]
- j.D > j.S/j.H > FB Dive (2-3 Hits) > FB Cancel > Double air dash j.H > S Dive > 5P > c.S > sj.S > sj.H > K Dive
- [MS, KD, 25%, 167dmg (j.S) / 174dmg (j.H)]
Air Throw Combos
- Air Throw > (2p/2K) c.S > j.S > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > FF VCL > c.S > j.S > j.H > K Dive
- [CN, KD, 136dmg (c.S) / 128dmg (2P > c.S) / 130dmg (2K > c.S)]
- Air Throw > (2p/2K) c.S > j.S > j.H > S Dive > c.S > j.S > j.H > (K Dive)/P Dive > air dash j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > K Dive
- [CN, KD, 130dmg (c.S then finish with early K Dive) / 125dmg (2P > c.S then finish with early K Dive) / 127dmg (2K > c.S then finish with early K Dive / 144dmg (full combo with c.S) / 137dmg (full combo with 2P > c.S) / 139dmg (full combo with 2K > c.S)]
- Air Throw > (2S) 5H > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > c.S > j.S > j.H > K Dive
- [CN, KD, 144dmg (5H) / 146dmg (2S > 5H)]
- Air Throw (near corner) > 5H > TK HCL > 6FRC6 > air dash j.H > c.S > j.S > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > K Dive
- [MS->CN, KD, 25%]
Ground Throw Combos
- Ground Throw > 6FRC6 > dash j.S > dj.S (dj.H) > S Dive > c.S(5K/5P) > (sj.P) sj.S > sj.H > K Dive
- [MS, KD, 25%, 97dmg (dj.H then 5P > sj.P) / 102dmg (j.H then c.S)]
- Ground Throw > FRC > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > j.D > (delay) VCL > c.S > j.S > j.H > K Dive
- [CN, KD, 25%, 113dmg]
Super Combos
- TK Ultimate Fortissimo > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > S Dive > c.S > sj.S > sj.H > P Dive > air dash sj.S > sj.H > P Dive > air dash sj.S > sj.H > K Dive
- [MS, KD, 50%, 280dmg]
- TK Ultimate Fortissimo > st.H > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.H > S Dive > c.S > j.S > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > K Dive
- [CN, KD, 50%, 295dmg]
- Hover Dash blocked starter > j.D hit > Ultimate Fortissimo > VCL > c.S > j.S > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.H > S Dive > c.S > j.S > j.H > K Dive
- [CN, KD, 50%, 255dmg (j.K used as the blocked starter)]
- Hover Dash blocked starter > j.D hit > Ultimate Fortissimo > VCL > c.S > j.S > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > c.S > VCL
- [CN, KD, 50%, 251dmg (j.K used as the blocked starter)]
- Longing Desperation > HCL
- [MS, KD, 50%, 153dmg]
- Longing Desperation > 5H > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > S Dive > c.S > j.S > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > P Dive > air dash j.S > j.H > K Dive
- [CN, KD, 50%, 266dmg]
Important Punishes
Burst Punishes
- [Video.] Works on all characters. On light characters, will need to delay the j.S following the j.632146S((FF VCL), so hoverdash goes further.
- Burst Blocked > 5K JI 632146K 6FRC6 j.S > j.632146S(FF VCL) HD j.S > djc.SH > j.236P AD djc.SH j.236K
Honnou's Combo Examples
You should check out his thread here for new content, but here's a compiled list for easy searching where clicking on the combo will link to the video for reference! Thanks for all the hard work Honnou!
f.s combo KD conversion series
- Starter > 6P > f.S > IAD > j.K > j.S > FFVCL > HCL
- Starter > 6P > f.S > dash jump > j.S > j.H > Sdive
- Starter > 6P > f.S > dash jump > j.S > j.K > j.S > dj.S > VCL > airdash j.K > FFVCL
- Starter > 6P > f.S > dash jump > j.S > j.K > j.S > dj.S > VCL > c.S > VCL
- Starter > 6P > f.S > dash jump > j.S > j.K > j.S > dj.S > VCL > c.S > j.S > dj.H > Kdive
"long-range" fuzzy mixup advanced meterless conversion
Air-to-air confirm
Anti-Air conversions
- 6P > c.S > j.K > j.S > VCL > airdash j.K > FFVCL
- 6P > c.S > j.S > dj.H > Sdive > 5P > j.P > j.S > dj.H > Kdive
Mid screen j.H > Hnote setups
- meterless H-note setup into late overhead via airdash from hover
- i-no meterless H-note setup into low mix
- meterless H-note setup into re-hover j.k overhead
- putting concepts together
- i-no 2k starter has abysmal proration, so set up something useful instead
- setup 2
- setup 3
- setup 4
- setup 5 - no FRC did you block it?
5H Starter
Monz's Pdive/Sdive Knockdown Route Examples
Footage is sorted per character and by weight class, but does not mean the combo is exclusive to that character. Characters not listed do not have an example route yet, or a route hasn't been found.
Super Light Weight
- Includes Baiken, Bridget, Jam, Kliff, and May.
Baiken:
Bridget:
Jam:
Kliff:
May:
Light Weight
- Includes Dizzy and Millia.
Dizzy:
Millia:
Medium Weight
- Includes Eddie, Slayer, Sol, and Zappa.
Eddie:
Slayer:
Sol:
Zappa:
Heavy Weight
- Includes Order Sol and ABA.
Order Sol:
ABA:
Super Heavy Weight
Theory Specifics
Modular Strings: I-No Specifics
There are going to be various points in your combos where you could gatling or link something else. As you learn more about the game you'll realize there are reasons to ad-lib a little bit. Sometimes you'll want to deviate from max damage to make something burst safe. Sometimes you'll go for the harder combo and realize that something you didn't do perfectly earlier in the combo prevents you from getting the ideal link now, so you have to go for something easier. Sometimes you just wont want to screw up a killing combo and will opt to go for something easier.
I-No is the kind of character that gives you a lot of freedom to change things on the fly. There's some actual demand to do so, because being a frame late on something early in a combo will result in adapting with a variant or dropping the combo, and you'll get blown up for it. Here's a short list of strings that allow you to change what follows:
Starters | String | Position | Character Specifics | Difficulty | Notes/Uses |
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5K, c.S, 5H, j.S, j.H, j.D 2S* & 2D* |
HCL > 6FRC6 | Anywhere, used to convert from STBT-S or TK Sdiv via 5K, or to punish blocked bursts via 5K, or to do big damage from 2S when landing | Works on everyone with follow-ups based on the character | Very Hard | Requires: jump install (*These normals cannot be jump canceled, so a jump install must be carried from somewhere else.), 25% for the FRC. Gives: corner carry, big damage potential. Follow-ups to set up the next string require adaptation based on vertical/horizontal positioning when HCL made contact and also on the character. Note: Substitute VCL for HCL in situations where your opponent is too high for HCL to hit, but is close enough that VCL doesn't whiff, which can happen from anti-air starters or while in the corner. |
2K, j.K, j.S, c.S, 2P, 5K | 6P > 5H > sj.IAD j.K > j.S > FFVCL | Anywhere | Regular jump IAD can work against some characters, but SJ offers a larger window against more characters and drops against the fewest | Hard (sj.IAD is a 2f link on the characters it works on) | Meterless, provides corner carry, can potentially be followed up depending on character weight and position (almost always in the corner, sometimes at mid screen). Best to use after a heavily prorated starter such as 2K instead of burning meter on the combo. Avoid using meter on combo extensions after the FFVCL in such cases. |
2K, j.K, j.S, c.S, 2P, 5K | 6P > f.S > IAD j.K > j.S > FFVCL | Anywhere | Super Jump IAD for lightweight characters | Hard | Good for midscreen confirms from long-range 6P, like the above string (but this one is easier when/where it works). Meterless, provides corner carry, can potentially be followed up depending on character weight and position (almost always in the corner, sometimes at mid screen). As f.S heavily forced prorates your damage (more than the above string), avoid spending meter on the combo if possible, unless it'll kill, of course. |
Anti-Air 5P or 6P > c.S > | j.S > dj.S > VCL | Vs already airborne, midscreen or corner | Hard on skinny characters (MI, VE, etc) and should probably be avoided in favor of spending meter for consistency | Hard | Meterless corner carry, by following up with the string airdash j.K > j.S > FFVCL, which leads to more stuff. |
Pdive, HCL 6FRC6, j.236D | airdash j.H > Pdive > airdash | Corner | Varies greatly depending on character weight/hurtbox | Moderate | Link into j.H, except if the opponent is too low or the hitstun is scaling because the combo has gone on for too long, at which point you do j.S > j.H. When it's time to knock down, substitute the Pdive with Kdive. |
j.D, j.236D, FFVCL, 5D | c.S > VCL > c.S | Corner, with opponent high above you near max vertical range of c.S | Can use against lightweights who are lower. | Easy~Moderate | Good added damage where possible, before going into a diveloop to knock down. |
N/A | j.236D > airdash > airdash > j.H > Kdive | Anywhere | Adjust airdash and j.H timing if necessary | Easy | Requires: Meter. Provides: Corner carry, baits burst at the j.236D due to cancel window. Note: use one fewer airdash when close to the corner |
2K, j.K, j.S, c.S, 2P | 6P > 5H > TK j.236H > c.S | Corner, or very specific mid-screen combos | Try to TK as low as possible, adjust slightly higher (like 1f) if necessary | Moderate | Sacrifice small amount of damage for meter gain, good when starter already prorates the combo heavily and you haven't prorated your meter gain recently via FRC, Force Break, etc. Though you can go into this from starters other than 2K, it's commonly sub-optimal to do so. |
Video Examples
Combo Tutorials
I-no - HCL FRC Airdash Tutorial | GGXXAC+R I-no basic IAD combo tips- | |
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+R Combo Videos
I-No Combos and Mixups | ||
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Older Game Combo Videos
May not be relevant anymore due to game changes, but they're still damn fun to watch. Enjoy!
GGXXAC - "Phantasm Infinity" pt.6 - Dizzy, Slayer, I-no Combo Video |
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