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| overview = Android 18 is a mix-up character who uses her plethora of options to crack down the opponents' defense while using Support Attack to keep her safe. 18 doesn't enter the field alone, as her 214X series [[DBFZ/Android 18#Support Attack|Support Attack]] allows her to summon her brother Android 17, who doubles as both an effective assist and the most dripped out character on the roster. Each one of the attacks that Android 17 can do are designed to help with 18's goal of slowly mounting pressure and pushing her opponent into the corner. Once her enemy is nice and tucked away into the corner, Android 18's true worth comes to the forefront as she becomes a true mixup machine. Properly utilizing assists, Support Attack and her own [[DBFZ/Android 18#Back Grapple|Back Grapple]] special can drown her opponent in a veritable ocean of moves coming their way, and 18 can capitalize on this immense pressure to open up her opponents and lay the smack down. Properly mastering the android siblings in tandem with each other can allow for some very long and damaging combos as well, and even create some unique situations such as a meterless snapback opportunity to continue the chase against fleeing opponents.  
| overview = Android 18 is a mix-up character who uses her plethora of options to crack down the opponents' defense while using Support Attack to keep her safe. 18 doesn't enter the field alone, as her 214X series [[DBFZ/Android 18#Support Attack|Support Attack]] allows her to summon her brother Android 17, who doubles as both an effective assist and the most dripped out character on the roster. Each one of the attacks that Android 17 can do are designed to help with 18's goal of slowly mounting pressure and pushing her opponent into the corner. Once her enemy is nice and tucked away into the corner, Android 18's true worth comes to the forefront as she becomes a true mixup machine. Properly utilizing assists, Support Attack and her own [[DBFZ/Android 18#Back Grapple|Back Grapple]] special can drown her opponent in a veritable ocean of moves coming their way, and 18 can capitalize on this immense pressure to open up her opponents and lay the smack down. Properly mastering the android siblings in tandem with each other can allow for some very long and damaging combos as well, and even create some unique situations such as a meterless snapback opportunity to continue the chase against fleeing opponents.  

Revision as of 04:03, 6 March 2022

Overview

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Normal Moves

5L

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
5L 400 Low 6 3 13 -4
5LL 700 All 10 4 16 -4
5LLL 1000 All U3+ 12 5 17 -5

5L
  • 6-frame normal, second fastest meterless attack 18 has.
  • Hits low.

Tied with Adult Gohan for the fastest low in the game. Great for stagger pressure, but its low hitbox means that some characters can jump out after she uses vanish.


5LL
  • Medium button in disguise.
  • Good frame advantage for stagger pressure.
  • Higher hitbox than 5M, some jump cancel combos will require this.

5LL moves foward after 5L to stay close, decent filler in pressure.


5LLL
  • Always Smashes. Combos into superdash.

5LLL is a knee that moves her forward.

5M

5H

5S

2L

2M

2H

2S

6M

j.L

j.M

j.H

j.S

j.2H

Special Moves

Back Grapple

236L/M/H

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
236L 600, 1000 Throw D2 17 1 24
236M 600,1000 / 600,1100 Throw U1+ → D2 30 1 24
236H 600,1200 / 700,1100 Throw U1+ → D2 28 1 24

All Versions
  • Switches sides on connect.
  • Hold L/M/H prevents 17 from coming out.
  • 17 also won't come out if he was used recently.

236L

Stomps opponent into a sliding knockdown.


236M
  • Throws opponent to 17, who then knocks them into a sliding knockdown.
  • Hold version corner splats.
  • Non-Smash version stomps into sliding knockdown like L version.

236H
  • Ground bounces the opponent into 17, who then launches them upward.
  • Jump and special cancelable.
  • Non-Smash version stomps into sliding knockdown like L version.

Support Attack

214L/M/H/S (Air OK)

  • 18 fixes her hair while 17 does the work.
  • Different buttons correspond to different actions 17 take.
  • Regardless of version, 17 will retreat if 18 gets hit or tags out.

Because 17 is attacking and not 18, this makes pressure off this move reflect-proof, since 18 herself isn't pushed back.

L Support

M Support

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
214M 400×3 All 32 4(13)4(18)9
[4(8)4(18)9]
Total 39 +27
j.214M 450×2 All 23+ 4(15)4 Total 32+7L

Ground Version
  • Startup for 2nd attack is reduced if 1st connects.
  • 3rd attack only comes out if the 2nd hits.

Excellent for stealing turns and safely setting up mixups with an assist. 32 frame startup means you only need 17 frames of blockstun to make this a true string from 5H.


Air Version
  • 17 appears in the air, falls closer to the ground and does a 2 hit string on the opponent.
  • Additional startup frames based on altitude, minimum of 23 frames.
  • Has Head attribute.

Primarily used for oki off 5H > SD > j.LLL > j.214M(oki) and from j.H sliding knockdown.

H Support

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
214H 117×10, 137×7 All 14 300 Total 32
j.214H 117×10, 137×7 All 14 300 Total 32
214H > 214H
or j.214H > 214H
117×10, 137×7 All 30 Total 39 +29
214H > j.214H
or j.214H > j.214H
117×10, 137×7 All 30 Total 39+7L

  • Strikes a devastating conversation.
  • Stays on screen for slightly longer than 5 seconds, and is invulnerable to all projectiles during the TED talk.
  • Goes away if you call your assists. If the opponent calls their assists, 17 will teleport above the assists and fire an Energy Wave, if they tags out, he attacks in front of you, if they DHC, he tracks the new point character.
  • This attack can be manually triggered by inputting 214H/j.214H again and spending another 0.5 Gauge with, though this version doesn't track.
  • Unlike other versions, 18 can cancel this move into any other Support Attacks, or Back Grapples with 17.

The manual trigger for this move is absolutely horrifying, and is one of 18's most important pressure tools. You can set up 17 after a j.H knockdown and then time it so that this hits super meaty, allowing 18 to get pressure that is basically unseeable due to the explosion covering the blast - and even if you do nothing, you're still plus. Good for neutral as well, especially against opponents running lots of assists that are strong in neutral (such as beam assists), as it forces them to hold back or risk a character and possibly themselves getting hit by this move.

S Support

Destructo-Disc

236S

Barrier

22S (Air OK)

Z Assists

Assist A

Barrier

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.
10 13-53 Non-throw, non-Super

  • Doesn't gain Ki for blocking attacks like the point version...
  • Shows up in front of the point character. Absorbs hits for both the point character and any other assists.
  • The barrier will NOT cover for you if you aren't inside it. Staying around the edge and attacks with large coverage will go right through 18 directly to you.

Android 18's assist is her barrier special that defends against incoming attacks. It can be a more situational assist but its ability to defend your point character from ranged attacks like beams can be pretty useful for setup characters like Beerus and Nappa to allow them to safely set up.

Assist B

Destructo-Disc

Assist C

Support Attack

Super Moves

Energy Wave

236L+M or 236H+S (Air OK)

Accel Dance

214L+M or 214H+S (Air OK)

No results
Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. SmashWhich type of cinematic this attack can trigger. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is an attackbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, they will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. Invul.

  • Costs 3 bars.
  • Invulnerable from frames 1 to 23.
  • 1718 minimum damage.
  • If Krillin is on your team and not on-screen, 18 will perform the super with the best boi Krillin instead of Android 17.
  • Can pick up multiple characters, meaning you can punish a poorly called assist character along with the character on point.
  • Drops in the perfect range to summon medium 17 for Oki

Invincible startup super. Reaches about 3/4ths screen distance, and can connect after almost any combo leaving the opponent in front of 18. Most of the damage is done during the last part, meaning the opponent can recover a fair chunk of blue life if Sparking Blast is active.

External References

Navigation

To edit frame data, edit values in DBFZ/Android 18/Data.

DBFZ/Navigation