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Revision as of 23:11, 24 October 2021

Overview
Overview

Susano'o is a heavy brawler character equipped with big buttons that can convert into incredible damage. Unlike his Central Fiction iteration, Susano'o no longer requires unlocking his specials, allowing him to use most of his specials at the start of the round.

Pros
Cons
  • Jaw dropping damage output in general; can easily inflict over 8k with a 5A starter without any resources.
  • Has arguably the strongest 4A in the game, allowing for insane stagger pressure.
  • Good range overall.
  • Good Mixup options.
  • High Health.
  • Improved Mobility compared to his CF counterpart
  • Has access to many fantastic active switch moves, all of them capable of setting up frighteningly strong mixup.
  • Several jump cancels on block
  • Solid space control assists
  • Many of his attacks move him forward, making his hit-confirms very easy even from max poke distance.
  • Basic BnB combo almost guarantees you the corner when you land it.
  • No standing overheads besides 5C, meaning your overhead mixups will rely mostly on fuzzies
  • Lengthy recovery on buttons makes him vulnerable to well timed pushblocks.
  • Hitscan is bound to his assist, so his anti-projectile options are limited to Inevitable Calamity, proper movement, or assists
  • Large hurtbox makes it difficult to deal with zoners
  • All of his normals, save for 4A, lack strong disjointed hitboxes.
  • Slow mashing options on wakeup


Susano'o
BBTag Susanoo Portrait.png
Health
18,000
Prejump
4F
Backdash
22F (1~7F Inv All)
Fastest Attack
Reversals

Normal Moves

4A

5A

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is a hurtbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, he/she will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes. Inv.The number of frames this attack has invincibility, and what attribute(s) this invincibility applies to.
5A 1500 All 9 6 18 -7 B -
5AA 1700 All 13 6 19 -6 B -
5AAA 1700 All 15 2(3)1 29 -16 B -
5AAAA 2000 All 17 3 34 -16 B -

  • Solid range, decently quick.
  • Jump cancellable on block

5A is a strong poke option, has a nice hitbox, leads into a strong confirm on hit, overall solid neutral tool. It's your main ground button if you don't want to be greedy with 5B.


  • Moves forward
  • Jump cancellable on block

5AA converts very easily after tail, even at max distance. Also a decent pressure tool thanks to its cancel options


  • Moves forward also
  • Will bring airborne opponents to the ground

5AAA is the easy bake combo stabilizer. It will hit a lot higher up than you'd think.


  • Again, moves forward

You will only really use 5AAAA for Cross Raid. And even then, this move whiffs quite easily once the hitstun decay gets really low, making it quite unreliable to use as far as Cross Raids go. Doing it early in a combo is also ill-advised since you are sacrificing your assist meter, and the minimum damage isn't that much better due to Susano'o's already impressive damage scaling on his moveset.

5B

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is a hurtbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, he/she will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes. Inv.The number of frames this attack has invincibility, and what attribute(s) this invincibility applies to.
5B 1700 All 11 4 20 -5 B -
5BB 2000 All 12 5 20 -4 B -

  • Wouldn't you know it, this moves forward also

Slightly slower but more damaging than 5A. Your ideal punish on whiffed or blocked DPs. Leans back slightly during it's first few frames of startup, allowing you to cause some moves to whiff in mid range. Paired with 5BB, this works as one of Susano'o's many stagger pressure options.


  • You guessed it: 5BB moves forward.

Strong frametrap option with massive reward if it hits, also huge damage combo tool you will use a lot.

5C

2A

2B

2C

j.A

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is a hurtbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, he/she will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes. Inv.The number of frames this attack has invincibility, and what attribute(s) this invincibility applies to.
j.A 1500 High 11 4 22 - H -
j.AA 1500 High 11 4 15 - H -

  • Hits in front of and below Susano'o, making it a decent jump-in and great for fuzzies on taller characters.

While not nearly as versatile as j.B, it still has some advantages. It's easier to use for air to ground conversions off of Dancing Dual Kick. Unlike j.B, it's angle is the same throughout the entirety of it's actives, meaning it can serve as a better air to ground in certain situations due to j.B's downward hitbox extending on frame 13.


  • Hits in almost the same exact place as j.A

j.AA has very limited use. Against tall characters, this will connect after an instant j.A. It's not optimal as far as combo filler goes due to it's average scaling and damage.

j.B

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is a hurtbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, he/she will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes. Inv.The number of frames this attack has invincibility, and what attribute(s) this invincibility applies to.
j.B 1700×2 High 9 2(2)3 23 - H -
j.BB 1700 High 15 6 21+8L - H -

  • Hits twice. Both hits are jump cancellable.
  • When second hit connects with an airborne opponent, they will be sent to the ground.

Susano'o's most versatile air normal. Due to it's speed and hitboxes, this move can serve both as an air-to-air, or an air-to-ground normal. Additionally, both hits of this normal are overheads, allowing Susano'o to fuzzy most of the cast.


  • Can connect after both hits of j.B in certain routes

Primarily combo filler, has landing recovery but will still be + as long as you didn't use it really high up.

j.C

Hunter’s Fang

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is a hurtbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, he/she will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes. Inv.The number of frames this attack has invincibility, and what attribute(s) this invincibility applies to.
1000×N, 1000 High 10 8×N, 3 24 -10 H×N, P1

  • Does a small hop up before going all the way to the ground
  • If the opponent is hit in the air, they'll enter a pseudo-capture and be dragged to the ground. Does more hits the higher up you were.
  • May cross up mid screen if done up close, the opponent won't be dragged in front of you and will leave you extremely minus even on hit

This is Susano'o's strong overhead active swap option. For maximum effectiveness on AS do it after j.B to make them stand block for more overhead hits. Otherwise it's a form of combo ender especially if you got them with a weird hit you can't really full convert off of


Universal Moves

Ground Throw

5B+C

Version Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is a hurtbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, he/she will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes. Inv.The number of frames this attack has invincibility, and what attribute(s) this invincibility applies to.
BC 0×2, 2000 Throw 7~30 3 23 - T -
4BC 0×2, 2000 Throw 7~30 3 23 - T -

  • 100% minimum damage: 2000 total
  • Susano'o performs a dash and then grabs if he wasn't already within throw range.
  • Opponents cannot Cross Burst during a throw.

Normal throw mix up is actually fairly important for Susano'o due to him not being able to enforce or convert off of his high/low solo consistently. Because of his slow run startup you can buffer throw after 5A/5AA at most ranges and it will automatically time the grab to get them out of blockstun, making for a nice active switch option. A result of his slow run speed is that he cannot reliably punish pushblock with a TRM throw.

Towering Flame

5A+D


Skills

Sundering Claws

236A

Dancing Dual Kick

236B

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is a hurtbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, he/she will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes. Inv.The number of frames this attack has invincibility, and what attribute(s) this invincibility applies to.
600×5, 1000 Low×5, All 18 4,4,4,4,4(24)4 19+20L -24 F×5, B

  • Jump cancellable on hit or block
  • There's a small pause between the slide and the kick that launches, leaving a 10 frame gap in between the two hits.
  • This move alone is a selling point to put this character into your team

Not only is this your main launcher in solo-confirms, this is arguably the most valuable active switch move in Susano'o's arsenal, and a very lethal one at that. It's near impossible to pushblock and it's multi-hitting nature allows for some incredibly easy unblockable situations. The only downside to this is that if they choose to take the low as a starter, you won't likely get much damage off of it due to it's horrible initial proration. Additionally, you can use this as his ender to get an incredibly powerful safejump and mixup setup that catches neutral, back, or forward tech.

Megalith

214A

Inevitable Calamity

214B

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is a hurtbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, he/she will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes. Inv.The number of frames this attack has invincibility, and what attribute(s) this invincibility applies to.
800×(3~12) All 7 3×N 20 -7 P2

  • Hold for additional hits
  • Deletes projectiles but does not possess projectile invulnerability.
  • Very strong against armored moves since each hit is unscaled
  • Incredibly fast special that can work both as a counter poke tool and a situational anti-zoning tool.

Has a niche place in neutral due to it's speed, disjoint, controllable actives, and anti-projectile capabilities. However, due to it's incredibly bad scaling and low untech, it possesses no real value or potential in combos.


Extra Skills

Blade of Judgement

236C

Splintering Thrust

214C

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is a hurtbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, he/she will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes. Inv.The number of frames this attack has invincibility, and what attribute(s) this invincibility applies to.
0, 1900×2 Throw 30 16 37 T 1~45 T

  • Command grab, though slow on startup. Lunges forward slightly.
  • Will drag the opponent all the way to the corner when this connects.

Can convert into a combo after landing. Be wary of using this solo. Due to it's EX flash, long startup, and high recovery, you are potentially sentencing yourself for a painful punish if your opponent isn't sleeping on this move. However, due to it having throw invincibility on startup it can be used as a solid throw bait tool. Certain teams can abuse this move to create unblockable situations. Unlike 236B unblockable setups, 214C unblockable setups have the benefit of being unburstable.


Partner Skills

5P

Sundering Claws

6P

BBCF 6A

4P

Lvl 2 Hunter's Fang's Pillar

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is a hurtbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, he/she will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes. Inv.The number of frames this attack has invincibility, and what attribute(s) this invincibility applies to.
2000 All (18)+13 3 Total: (18)+64 -24 P1

Insanely tall anti air assist that hits as high as you think it does. This assist possesses the least amount of block stun out of Susano'o's kit, so it's not ideal for plugging holes in pressure. 4P is a projectile and that means it can destroy other projectiles as well as that there is no hitstop/blockstop applied to Susano'o when he uses it, making it a good assist to active switch into Susano'o with situationally. Additionally the visual effect is a layer in front of the characters so you can use it to hide mixups when spaced correctly.


Distortion Skills

Liberating Dagger

236B+C

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is a hurtbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, he/she will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes. Inv.The number of frames this attack has invincibility, and what attribute(s) this invincibility applies to.
5500 [5200, 120×30] All 7+(75 Flash)+8 6 55 -20 B 1~20 All

  • (ALMOST) Full-screen reach
  • Pops the opponent up on mid-air hit
  • Minimum Damage: 1705 (Resonance: 2020)
  • Hits on both sides of Susano'o

If you hit an airborne opponent with this (if they're high enough) you can actually combo after. This also somewhat difficult to punish on block depending on the distance so you may get away with it more than you expect. Due to it hitting on both sides it can be used when you are in a sandwich situation to hit both characters, almost regardless of their distance to Susano'o.

Bloodsplitter

214B+C


Distortion Skill Duo

Liberating Dagger

P during Partner's Distortion Skill


Astral Heat

Roar of the Mad King

222B+C

Damage GuardHow this attack can be guarded. Throws have their throw range listed instead. StartupShows how many frame that the corresponding move needs to go through in order to reach its active frames. ActiveShows how many frames where there is a hurtbox, AKA the hitbox where if the opponent touches it, he/she will take damage. Occurs after Startup. RecoveryShows how many frames that the character must go through after its active frames to automatically go back to a neutral stance. Frame Adv.The difference between the attacker's recovery and the period that the opponent is in blockstun. This Frame Advantage value is based off the fact that the very first active frame touches the opponent. Throws list the amount of Frame Advantage upon successfully throwing the opponent. AttributesAttributes this attack possesses. Some attacks are invincible to attacks of certain attributes. Inv.The number of frames this attack has invincibility, and what attribute(s) this invincibility applies to.
99999 All 4+(50 Flash)+10 3 36 -18 B 1~16 All

  • Only available in Level 4 Resonance Blaze when the opponent has one character left, requires 9 Skill Gauge stocks.
  • Opponent cannot Cross Burst during this attack.
  • Grants victory on a successful hit.
  • 100% minimum damage

Susano'o attempts a downward hand swipe to slam his opponent to the floor, if it connects he unleashes the real power of his "God Slaying Sword" and destroys everything around. This can be combo'd into from almost any ground hit normal easily. 2C, Throws, and 236B (except for the final hit) are the most consistent ways to combo into it. Because this will always win you the match if you hit it, if the opportunity to combo into astral arises you should always use it.



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