GGAC/Johnny

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Johnny

Background

Johnny wears sunglasses and a hat, which clearly makes him the coolest character in the game.

Strengths:

  • Great pokes
  • High damage potential
  • Mist Canceling
  • Coins
  • Highest tension pulse

Weaknesses:

  • Subpar high/low mixup
  • While damage potential is high, it’ll cost you coins, meter, or both
  • Large inactive hitbox
  • Most moves are horrible on whiff, which makes every poke a dedicated decision

Move List

See also: Johnny Full Frame Data

Normals

5P
GGAC Johnny 5P.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
12 1.44 3 8 1 HLF CJR 5 4 6 0

Sparkles. Whiffs over most crouchers. A decent anti-air. Though lacking the invincibility of 6P, it has faster startup and less scaling and proration. On air counter-hit, can jump-cancel for an air combo. Otherwise chain to c.S, or cancel to Coin. Has similar animation to Coin.

5K
GGAC Johnny 5K.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
16 2.64 6 7 2 HLF CJR 6 5 9 -2

All around good move. Your main poke. Good attack box, and not easily punished on whiff. The focal point of your ground game. How to get around your 5K, should be the thought that permeates your opponent's mind. Does not prorate, making it a good hit-confirm for combos. On block, can cancel to a number of higher level moves to then Mist Cancel for greater frame advantage. Or you can Mist Cancel your 5K bare, for a tick throw, or simply to maintain your positioning.

c.S
GGAC Johnny cS.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
26 2.66 10 7 3 HLF CJR 6 3 8 +3

Sort of an intermediary between 2P and 5K. One frame slower than 2P and less range than 5K, but more frame advantage on block, and a larger hitbox, vertically. Also a better move to Mist Cancel off of, than either of the two. Use this move when you're not close enough for your punches, but also inside 5K's max range.

f.S
GGAC Johnny fS.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
34 3.84 14 6 4 HLF CR 8 3 25 -11

Hits farther and harder than 5K, but whiffs over some characters and many crouchers, and even some runs. Sometimes intermittently. Dangerous to whiff. As such, reserve this move for counter-pokes only; it's not something to throw out thoughtlessly. Chains to 6HS, but only combos on counter-hit or crouch-hit.

5H
GGAC Johnny 5H.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
42 3.84 20 3 5 HLF CR 11 2 33 -16

Big reach. Controls a lot of space, ground-wise and air-wise. Kinda fast for how much space it covers, but still a bit slow. Extends your hitbox forward, be mindful of this and it's startup. Easily backdashed, and horrible if whiffed. Tends to lose to the same moves that go under your 2P or 5K.

6P
GGAC Johnny 6P.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
25 2.64 10 7 3 HLF CJR 11 6 10 -2

Your 'go to' anti-air. Has upper body invincibility on startup. Also a good counter-poke due to the above knee invincibility in the later frames. Floats on ground hit.

6K
GGAC Johnny 6K.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

FRC: 12f-13f Has some upper body invincibility in the middle of its startup. More of an ground to air poke, than an anti-air. Wallsticks on counter-hit. Floats on ground hit. Covers similar ground as your forward dash, and hits sooner than a canceled forward dash. But watch your feet and try not to get thrown.

6H
GGAC Johnny 6H.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Hit box moves back slightly at startup. Long range poke, controls a lot of ground space. The highest damage you can get in a single hit. Also your slowest poke. Jump cancellable.

5D
GGAC Johnny 5D.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Very slow overhead. Johnny's only true standing overhead. On block, neutral at worst, +7 at best. Deceptive reach.

Dead Angle Attack
GGAC Johnny 6P.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Wallbounces. On counter-hit, a knockdown causes an un-OTG-able state.

2P
GGAC Johnny 2P.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Like a close range version of your 5K. Is all around faster than 5K, but has a little bit of proration. Tends to beat and lose to the same moves as 5K. Natural frame advantage on block. Self-cancels.

2K
GGAC Johnny 2K.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Hits low. Compliments your 5K. If they have a move that cleanly goes under your 5K, 2K is what you use against it. Starts up slower than 5K, but is even harder to whiff punish due to its minimal recovery. Properly meatied, 2K is reversal safe against many reversals.

2S
GGAC Johnny 2S.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

What 2K is to 5K, 2S is to f.S. Hits low. Good active frames, good meaty, good neutral poke when f.S would whiff. Prorates a lot.

2H
GGAC Johnny 2H.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Very fast and lots of reach, both horizontally and a little bit vertically. Moves you backwards. Atrocious on whiff. A very specific move. Some characters can squeeze attacks underneath your 5K and over your 2K. Against those moves, 2H is what you have to use. Gatlings to 5D. Punishable on normal hit. Staggers on CH.

2D
GGAC Johnny 2D.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

2 hits, both low. Second hit knocks down. Good to Mist Cancel off of. Good blockstring filler, to train them in to the habit of blocking low. Mixup which hit you Mist Cancel, to keep them weary. Has a little bit more reach than 2S and it doesn't prorate, so it can be a good substitute. But it's also worse to whiff. 2D(1)>Coin will connect on most of the cast at most ranges.

3H
GGAC Johnny 3H.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

2 hits. First hit hits around the feet, where 5H doesn't. Also has a lot of active frames. Second hit is like a 5H. Solid meaty at max range, as it will clash with Sol's Volcanic Viper, but somewhat gimmicky as the range needed to induce a clash is a giveaway to what you are trying to do. If you have ample time after your corner Bacchus Sigh setups, this is one move you can use to make sure your opponent stays in place on wakeup. Also builds up a lot of guard guage, since it's essentially two 5H's. Beware of slashback. Can special cancel at any time, as long as the first hit has made contact.

j.P
GGAC Johnny jP.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Your fastest air normal. Self-cancel.

j.K
GGAC Johnny jK.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Crossup. Decent air to ground.

j.S
GGAC Johnny jS.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Crossup. Whiffs on crouching hit boxes. Good air to air. Also good air to ground. Can be used to zone out a lot of space. Fast recovery allows for additional movements or attacks afterwards.

j.H
GGAC Johnny jH.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Good air to ground. Staggers on counter-hit. Induces plummet on air-hit.

j.D
GGAC Johnny jD.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Crossup. Best air to air for hitting opponents above you. Wallbounces. A small amount of recovery upon landing.

Throws

Throw
GGAC Johnny throw.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Slightly above average range. Causes techable float. Heavy forced proration. Due to its aggressive proration, it is advised to either coin, go for knockdown, or both when you land it. Following up with damage combos is generally not worth it.

Air Throw
GGAC Johnny airThrow.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Average range. Wallbounces. Heavy forced proration. Bacchus Sigh, recoin, Level 2 Mid MistFiner combos and more are possible when opponent is air thrown into the corner.

Specials

TODO: FIND A BETTER WAY TO LAY OUT MIST FINER DATA

Mist Finer Stance
236P/K/S
GGAC Johnny MistStance.png
Version Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
Stance
Step Forward (66)
Step Backward (66)
Stance Cancel (H)
Mist Finer: Upper
236P
GGAC Johnny 236P.png
Version Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
Level 1
Level 2
Level 3

Level 1: Will cancel out projectiles, but loses hit potential. Good anti-air for when your opponent is out of 6P range and/or is doing a move that will beat 6P. Scores knockdown on air CH, recoin possible when near corner.

Level 2: FRC: 19f~20f - Reduces Mist Level to 1. Cancels out projectiles.

Level 3: 9 hits. Reduces Mist Level to 1. Cancels out projectiles.

Mist Finer: Middle
236K
GGAC Johnny 236K.png
Version Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
Level 1
Level 2
Level 3

Level 1: Will cancel out projectiles, but loses hit potential.

Level 2: Reduces Mist Level to 1. Cancels out projectiles.

Level 3: 9 hits. Some hits are low. Reduces Mist Level to 1. Cancels out projectiles.

Mist Finer: Lower
236S
GGAC Johnny 236S.png
Version Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
Level 1
Level 2
Level 3

Level 1: Will cancel out projectiles, but loses hit potential.

Level 2: FRC: 19f~20f - Low. Reduces Mist Level to 1. Cancels out projectiles.

Level 3: 9 hits. First hit is low. Reduces Mist Level to 1. Cancels out projectiles.

Glitter Is Gold
236H
GGAC Johnny 236H.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

You start each round with 8 Coins. Depletes one Coin on use. On hit, increases Mist Level by one. On block, it offers good frame advantage and a way to continue pressure, but be wary of the arc the coin travels in. If used thoughtlessly, some characters may be able to hit you and/or avoid the move with moves that have low-profile properties(e.g. Ky's Stun Dipper, Sol's 2D or Grand Viper).

Bacchus Sigh
214P
GGAC Johnny 214P.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

FRC: 41f~46f - Causes no hitstun or blockstun. On "hit", attaches to opponent. Will attach to downed opponents. Opponent can not block Mist Finer attacks for as long as Bacchus Sigh is attached.

Ensenga
j.41236H
GGAC Johnny j41236H.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Overhead. Not a projectile. First hit does a base damage of 6, scores knockdown at most heights against the entire cast. Second hit does a base damage of 62, causes Blowback effect, which can score knockdown at low heights. Note that when both hits connect, the knockdown of the first hit is canceled out by the Blowback of the second.

Divine Blade
623S
GGAC Johnny 623S.png
GGAC Johnny 623SS.png
Version Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
Jump
Attack (623S~S)
Air Divine Blade
j.236S
GGAC Johnny 623SS.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

FRC: 15f~16f - Cancels out projectiles.

Killer Joker
214S
File:GGAC Johnny 214S.png
Version Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
Jump
Attack (214S~S)
Air Killer Joker
j.214S
File:GGAC Johnny j214S.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

FRC: 12f~14f - On FRC, restores air movement

Force Breaks

Jackhound
214D
GGAC Johnny 214D.png
Version Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff
Normal
Mist Stance Jackhoud
Mist Stance Dash Jackhoud

Consumes 25% Tension. Staggers on ground hit (47F max). 46F float on air hit. 60% proration.

(During Mist Stance) - Staggers on ground hit (52F max). 51F float on air hit. 70% proration.

(During Mist Stance Dash) - Staggers on ground hit (65F max). 51F float on air hit. 80% proration.

Return Jack
During Jackhoud, 236D
GGAC Johnny 236D.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Consumes 25% Tension. On hit, increases Mist Level by one.

Overdrives

That's My Name
632146H
GGAC Johnny 632146H.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

4 frames of startup before superflash + 4 frames of startup after. 1-8F invincibility. 9-10F throw invincibility. 9-17F above knees invincibility. Johnny's only true reversal. Think of the active hitbox as looking like a baseball bat.

Instant Kill

Joker Trick
During IK Mode, 236236H
GGAC Johnny IK1.png
GGAC Johnny IK2.png
Damage Tension GB+ GB- Level Guard Cancel Startup Active Recovery Static Diff

Don't you dare.

Tactics

Frame Data

Redirect to Johnny's Frame Data

General Strategies

Gatling Chart

Mist Cancel

Essential Johnny technique.

Observe: 5H on block is -16, punishable by many characters. When Mist Canceled, it becomes +6. Better than safe, it's advantage!

How to Mist Cancel

  1. Do a move that is special cancelable.
  2. Special cancel in to a Mist Finer.
  3. Hold button to stay in Mist Stance.
  4. While holding button, press H to Stance Cancel (Note: Holding the button when mist cancelling is not mandatory as of Accent Core. If H is inputted during the window of mist stance startup, it will cancel at the first possible frame. However, if H is not inputted during that window, the actual Mist Finer will come out. While this technique makes it easier to perform the fastest possible mist cancelling, it is much easier to make a mistake. Thus, it is recommended to hold the button unless you have a good grasp of the timing and have good execution.)
   Example: 5H>236[PKS]~HS

Combos

Abbreviations

MF Lvl X Low/Mid/High - Mist Finer Lvl X Low (236S), Mid (236K), or High (236P)
Enkasu - One Hit Ensenga
Mist Jackhound - Jackhound while in Mist Stance
Dash Jackhound - Jackhound during Mist Stand Dash
KJ - Killer Joker
KJT - Killer Joker Transport
DB - Divine Blade
DBT - Divine Blade Transport
Air Combo - See the Air Combo Explanation section for details

Air Combo Explanation

Standard basic is a variation of: j.K > j.S > j.K > j.S > j.D > Ensenga. Vary by replacing the section before the double jump with j.P > j.K > j.S or j.K > j.P > j.S for character specific adjusting.

Optimization route is j.K > j.S > j.S > j.H > j.D > Ensenga. This also leads to the most optimized

Killer Joker FRC followup is j.S > j.S > j.H > j.D > Ensenga, if done after j.H > KJ FRC.

Air combos can be ended in j.H > Divine Blade, which generally lead to untechable knockdown if positioned correctly. This is often at the end of an optimized combo instead of j.D > Ensenga, or as such: j.H > KJ FRC > j.H > Divine Blade. As you can see, is it usually critical that j.H be combo’d into in order to use a Divine Blade ender, so understanding the optimized air combo route is crucial for utilizing this ender.

MF Lvl 2 High Loops

If a combo leads into, or starts from MF Lvl 2 high, one can choose to do one of the following:

  • Air Combo Variations
  • -standard j.KSKSDE variant
  • -standard 25% damage combos: j.KSSH > KJ FRC > j.SSHDE
  • 25% Airdash Enkasu - j.KSK > KJ FRC > airdash j.KSDE(1)
  • Divine Blade enders (see above section)
  • iad j.H > kj FRC > aircombo - good against lights / they are too far for j.K
  • iad j.H > KJ FRC > j.H > j.D > Enkasu* - Char specific enkasu setup
  • ground divine blade transport divine blade - leads to solid knockdown, weak oki timing
  • coin > mf lvl 2 high juggle into coin > jackhound > mist - sets up lvl 2 + mist setup
  • coin > mf lvl 2 high juggle into coin > iad j.K > j.S > j.D > Ensenga (1) - same as above but better corner carry, does not change sides, harder executionally.
  • coin > mf lvl 2 high juggle into coin > divine blade transport > divine blade for lvl 2 + hard knockdown. enough time for meaty, but no mist setup, but meterless and works midscreen when enkasu is hard to followup / unreliable


Midscreen Combos

  • Stuff > 2D > Mist
standard meterless mist setup. 2S is meaty, 3H meaty requires FRC
  • Stuff > 2D > Coin
Basic meterless ground combo for levels. You can follow up with various OTGs such as dash 5K/2P, 6K, f.S, 6H, dash coin, immediately coin again. Followups are character specific and can lead to different pursuit options. Additional coins for an extra level.
  • 6P > j.K > j.S > j.K > j.S > j.D > Ensenga
Basic anti-air combo. See Air Combo explanations for further details on air combo variations / enders.
  • TK Ensenga > RC > airdash j.S > Ensenga
Basic midscreen TK Ensenga combo
  • 5K > 8 (ji) > 5H > KJT KJ > FRC > Air Combo
Basic midscreen damage with no levels
  • 5K > 5H > MF Lvl 2 Low > Air Combo
Level 2. Basic midscreen damage combo
  • 5K > 5H > dash jackhound > 2D > mistcancel > 5K/2P > 5H > MF Lvl 2 High > Air Combo
Level 2. Advanced damage midscreen jackhound confirm combo - mistcancel followup is a link - can be difficult executionally / character specific. Hit(s) after 2D Mist Cancel are character/spacing specific.
  • 5K> 5H > KJT KT > FRC > j.H > j.D > 5H > MF Lvl 2 High > Air Combo
Advanced damage combo, requires mist finer level 2 and at least 25% meter. j.D may need to be delayed depending on character. j.H must come out as soon as possible after the FRC or it will whiff, so you must slide to H as you FRC by doing FRC with PKS then press H immediately after. You can also choose to omit j.H for the simpler combo below.
  • 5K > 5H > KJT KT > FRC > delayed j.D > Side swap > MF Lvl 2 High > Air Combo
Easier but less damaging version of above combo, with the added effect of swapping sides. This can be beneficial if you are cornered. It is recommended to learn the above combo instead, because it can be extended greatly in the corner, whereas this one cannot.


Corner Combos

  • 5K > 5H > KJT KJ FRC > j.H > j.D > land > aircombo
Any level. Advanced corner damage combo
  • 5K > 5H > KJT KJ FRC > j.K > j.D > Enkasu
Any level. Basic corner enkasu setup - can omit j.K on some characters (and even j.D?)
  • 5K > 5H > KJT KJ FRC > j.H > j.D > land > Air Combo
Any level. Advanced damage combo
  • 5K > 5H > KJT KJ FRC > DB FRC > j.K / j.H > j.D > land > aircombo
Any level. Intermediate corner damage combo - does less than the above combo, but is much easier. KJT KJ FRC > DB > FRC > j.H is a very safe / good string on block, so this route is extremely beneficial if you are trying to safely confirm from a potential KJT KJ hit.
  • TK Ensenga > RC > airdash j.K > j.D > land > aircombo
Any level. Basic TK Ensenga corner combo. Can replace with j.H > j.D against PO, RO, and HO. Use rising j.K for aircombo starter. use c.S or j.P if they are too low for j.K
  • 5K > 5H > mf lvl 2 mid > dash 5H > coin > MF Lvl 2 High > Air Combo
Level 2. Standard meterless damage combo
  • 5K > 5H > MF Lvl 2 Mid > dash 6H > (Mist) Jackhound > c.S > Air Combo
Level 2. Basic damage combo with 25%
  • 5K > 5H > MF lvl 2 Mid > dash 6H > forward tk KJ FRC > j.H / j.K > j.D > land > Air Combo
Intermediate damage combo. Recommended inputting as 9 214 to get forward TK, due to 6H hitstop. Somewhat character / distance specific. More stable the closer to the corner you are.
  • 5K > 5H > MF Lvl 2 Mid > Coin > (dash) iad j.K > j.S > j.D > Enkasu
Level 2. Standard meterless Enkasu setup. Difficult, but important. character specific, can replace with j.PKSD, j.PSD, j.KPSD, depending on char / distance / preference. See Enkasu explanation for details
  • 5K > 5H > MF lvl 2 mid > coin > ( dash 5H ) > mist stance Jackhound > Mist
Basic jackhound mist setup
  • 5K > 5H > MF lvl 2 mid > coin > dash 5K / c.S / f.S / 5H > mf lvl 2 mid > coin > dash c.S / 5H > mist stance jackhound > 2D > Mist
Level 2. Advanced jackhound mist ender - good timing is needed to correctly hit with 2D for solid knockdown. Leads to much better spaced post-mist meaty than previous combo. Character weight is crucial to landing the 2D properly - more hits may be needed so the opponent falls into 2D correctly.




Enkasu Explanation and Combos

Alternate Color Chart

P K S H D
AC
File:Johnny normal p.gif
File:Johnny normal k.gif
File:Johnny normal s.gif
File:Johnny normal hs.gif
File:Johnny normal d.gif
EX
File:Johnny ex p.gif
File:Johnny ex k.gif
File:Johnny ex s.gif
File:Johnny ex hs.gif
File:Johnny ex d.gif
Slash
File:Johnny slash p.gif
File:Johnny slash k.gif
File:Johnny slash s.gif
File:Johnny slash hs.gif
File:Johnny slash d.gif
#R
File:Johnny reload p.gif
File:Johnny reload k.gif
File:Johnny reload s.gif
File:Johnny reload hs.gif
File:Johnny reload d.gif


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